Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:36 am
I'm not sure why it's assumed that if you're not trading, you're not immersed.
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This is the problem with listening to narratives created by the people who talk the most.Whittness10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:36 am I'm not sure why it's assumed that if you're not trading, you're not immersed.
No lol just keep rolling along
You're my boy blue, you are, but in my opinion, the lack of immersion is from it being a forum based league.GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:35 pmImmersion has been steadily declining for the past 50 seasons. We would have 100 page season threads before. Increase in injuries and a team or two falling out of the race will cause them to lose interest as it's impossible to improve their trades as nobody seems interested in trading anymore. Just my point of view, increase them and see for yourselfTheGobOne wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:29 pmLol how? I need details.GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:39 pm injury increase will be the downfall of immersion in this league. You heard it here first
Great statement by Dave.DRiccio21 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:02 amThis is the problem with listening to narratives created by the people who talk the most.Whittness10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:36 am I'm not sure why it's assumed that if you're not trading, you're not immersed.
Just ignore the nonsense. People have been talking about the demise of the NDL for nearly a decade before OOTP even existed.
We’re doomed!
No wonder you took so long to respond to me...The_Niddler wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:47 amYou're my boy blue, you are, but in my opinion, the lack of immersion is from it being a forum based league.GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:35 pmImmersion has been steadily declining for the past 50 seasons. We would have 100 page season threads before. Increase in injuries and a team or two falling out of the race will cause them to lose interest as it's impossible to improve their trades as nobody seems interested in trading anymore. Just my point of view, increase them and see for yourselfTheGobOne wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:29 pmLol how? I need details.GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:39 pm injury increase will be the downfall of immersion in this league. You heard it here first
And before anyone tries to bitch or say anything to me about that response, I help keep them running, so I don't want them to go away.
But what I am saying is, using slack or discord, I get notifications when there are new messages, on the threads that I want to get notified on, especially in Discord.
I also get those notifications on my phone, in a little indicator, the same as when a text message comes through.
This makes it very simple to stay up to date and read what I need to read as I am on the go.
While I am still a fan of the forums, they are sometimes harder to access as there is no app to use on a phone.
I know we have the Quick Links - Unread messages option and such, but it is just not the same for most people.
And I truly feel that is why we do not have 100 page season threads anymore.
On to your theory about injury increase, I do not follow your thought here at all!
I am not sure how increasing injuries will cause people to lose interest.
I would think it would force more interest as teams would be looking for more talent due to more injuries. It would also cause there to not be so much talent sitting in FA.
I mean, we have a 71 and 69 rated 3B sitting in FA right now.
Those guys should be gobbled up by any team looking to win-now, since they are 35 and 34 years old. And Vidro is a highly decorated player and Orosco isn't too bad either. Both are pretty good hitters.
We also have a 28 year old 3B that is rated 68 OVR (OSA) and is a pretty good hitter with a high batting average.
When guys like that sit out there, to me, that shows we do not have nearly enough injuries.
It also has a negative impact on the talent that gets created for future drafts.
The more talent you have sitting around, the less the game will populate. To put it in layman's terms.
If I go by OSA ratings for comparison, there are 93 players sitting in FA that are green (Rated 53 and above).
93, that is HUGE!
There are a total of 970 players sitting in FA right now.
There are another 377 players sitting in FA that are rated 52-45. That range should be your average players of the league, in my opinion.
So you have 470 players total (45-71 rated) sitting in FA that should be filling out teams and instead are sitting in Free Agency.
So I am not sure how the league is voting no on increasing the injury frequency, but in my opinion, it is way too low.
As far as nobody interested in trading anymore, I'm not sure why people don't want to trade as much.
I, for one, don't trade much anymore, because I am not in a win-now situation.
I took a few seasons to build up my minors through drafting and Rule 5, etc. and now I have a good minor league system and hoping they can make an impact.
Once they start to hopefully make that impact, then I may want to trade for a key player or two to round out what I am hoping I will have, but each team should have a goal and a plan of what they want to do with their team.
And I understand how trading just may not be in the cards for some people.
For me, I don't want a player that is 26 or older as that won't help when my youngens get there in 3-4 seasons.
I would rather wait till those youngens hit and then see what my team's true needs are at that time.
Slack is for sure used in trade discussions. Forums is more generalized. And I believe 2010 was the first season. I've been here since 2043 and commish since mid 2085 (I think lol).Will - Edmounton wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:51 am How many seasons has this league been around? I can tell you as a noobie coming in impressed with the export rate on the daily. It doesn't give off a stale vibe of the league dying which was why I inquired.
Slack is my normal go to and forums usage in the past with other leagues isn't something that was used. Is the forum still a focal point in communication?
Trades wise still relatively new to the league so apprehensive starting which figure that to change at some point. I am not generally a big trader reserved to using other avenues to fill spots right now.
I don’t know exact years but there is a core group of us who have been gaming together for 15+ years pre OOTP. We all played ncaa football together in a large league. Once they got rid of that game we transitioned over the years and OOTP has become the main game for our community.Will - Edmounton wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:51 am How many seasons has this league been around? I can tell you as a noobie coming in impressed with the export rate on the daily. It doesn't give off a stale vibe of the league dying which was why I inquired.
Slack is my normal go to and forums usage in the past with other leagues isn't something that was used. Is the forum still a focal point in communication?
Trades wise still relatively new to the league so apprehensive starting which figure that to change at some point. I am not generally a big trader reserved to using other avenues to fill spots right now.
That's a good point but it's honestly not that bad if you manage it properly. And Rev Sharing will never go away under my watch. It's the only thing giving us plebs a shot against the Alabamas of this league. Those guys could run a 220M budget forever and never win less than 110 games every single year. It's the great equalizer and people need to learn to manage it. Or you spend 4 years running a minimum budget team to get out of the hole you dig.GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 am I was talking with qaz yesterday about budgets. The Beef and Halos have been pretty similar over the past 5 years, in terms of success, and we can't even get close to his ticket prices, and that's with a larger market and more fan loyalty.
People want to keep the revenue sharing coming in so there isn't a push to be players in the FA market. If an owner thinks his team isn't good enough to make the playoffs they won't add extra salary and that is why you get green guys sitting in the FA Pool all season long