COVID-19

[Crowes]

https://www.propublica.org/article/us-e ... oronavirus

All Obama's fault

You obviously didn't read the article Shel posted and want your own slant to it with your eye roll emoji. You tend to forget that the house and senate were democratic controlled so there would have been no problem getting anything passed at that time. Your article is from a left leaning website, it would hold as much weight to you as if I were to put up a FoxNews article.

Shel's post said it was created in the 90's, dipped into after 9/11 and really never replenished after each time it was taken from. I wasn't saying it was Obama's fault just like I won't put it on Trump's watch either. Politicians (both left and right) never had the foresight to predict any of this.

Not everything is about you budro. The great Cheeto has been saying it was all Obama's fault.

[GeorgesGoons]

Not everything is about you buddy. The great Cheeto had been saying it was all Obama's.

I will start off saying, anytime someone resorts to name calling their point, whether valid or not, means nothing to most people. An actual adult conversation goes a long way.

The lack of replenishing it was under Obama's watch, and it was under his watch with the house and senate controlled by democrats. So, I could understand why he says it was Obama's fault. But it was also his responsibility to replenish the reserves his first 3 years as well

[Crowes]

Not everything is about you buddy. The great Cheeto had been saying it was all Obama's.

I will start off saying, anytime someone resorts to name calling their point, whether valid or not, means nothing to most people. An actual adult conversation goes a long way.

The lack of replenishing it was under Obama's watch, and it was under his watch with the house and senate controlled by democrats. So, I could understand why he says it was Obama's fault. But it was also his responsibility to replenish the reserves his first 3 years as well

mental gymnastics at it finest..... Georgie you are one of a kind.

[ReignOnU]

https://www.propublica.org/article/us-e ... oronavirus

All Obama's fault

"ProPublica is a left-leaning American nonprofit organization based in New York City."

Breaking now... left-leaning website points finger at the right!

Here's quick weather update... water is wet.

Be sure to join us at 11 for our investigative special... on right-leaning websites that point fingers at the left!

[GeorgesGoons]

https://www.propublica.org/article/us-e ... oronavirus

All Obama's fault

"ProPublica is a left-leaning American nonprofit organization based in New York City."

Breaking now... left-leaning website points finger at the right!

Here's quick weather update... water is wet.

Be sure to join us at 11 for our investigative special... on right-leaning websites that point fingers at the left!

Now you are going to get a back handed comment from the all knowing Crowds.

[nick]

It’s so wild left and right still fighting while your country gets decimated. Embarrassing really.

[ReignOnU]

Dak - You're still consistently seeing that kind of talk in your feed? Kind of surprised, as I've seen very little of it since around the 20th and those that have posted it since then are also the same 2-3 'slow' individuals that will post shit from Alex Jones as fact.

George - You do have a good point about context. If you live in a flyover state and the annual impact of the flu to your network of people is 1 and now the impact of COVID19 appears to be 2, to them, it's just like the flu. Most people posting here are pretty smart. We look at the bigger picture. We're connected on some level with social media and somewhat understand global implications, etc. But we're not like most people. The majority of the population uses social media for Tiger King memes and chicks in bikinis. There's also a large silent population that simply doesn't touch it or if they do, it's minimal. Their world revolves around immediate family/friends/community. Majority older, many blue collar. (read: a lot of Trump voters as well) It's not an excuse for their comments, but it's important to understand how/why.

[shel311]

I still can't understand people on my Facebook page that are saying this isn't that serious and it's just like the flu.

Flu (on average) is about 40k worldwide deaths a year.

Coronavirus is closing in on 70k in 3 months without looking like it's anywhere near slowing down/tailing off.

Isn't that 40k a US number?

The WHO estimates that between 290-600k die annually from the flu, 12k-61k in the US.

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-f ... every-year

[DRWebs]

I still can't understand people on my Facebook page that are saying this isn't that serious and it's just like the flu.

Flu (on average) is about 40k worldwide deaths a year.

Coronavirus is closing in on 70k in 3 months without looking like it's anywhere near slowing down/tailing off.

Isn't that 40k a US number?

The WHO estimates that between 290-600k die annually from the flu, 12k-61k in the US.

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-f ... every-year

I feel like you've discussed it before but that 40K gap in possible deaths is wild

[shel311]

I feel like you've discussed it before but that 40K gap in possible deaths is wild

Yea, flu deaths are estimated due to how many people don't go out and get tested for it. I assume that's why we get a crazy estimate like between 12k and 61k. You'd think they can zero in a little closer on that, but who knows.

[GeorgesGoons]

The majority of the population uses social media for Tiger King memes and chicks in bikinis.

I'm using the Social Media thing wrong. I need more chicks in bikinis

Spoiler!

[ReignOnU]

It’s so wild left and right still fighting while your country gets decimated. Embarrassing really.

It's the monster we've made. A blessing on one hand, a curse on the other. In normal times, the opposition generally keeps us balanced. We get a vast range of ideas and usually good things eventually come from that. We're not a like-minded group of lemmings heading for the cliff and we're not an absolute servant to the overlords. I do think social media has accelerated what was a slowly growing divide of ideologies. Now, in a time of conflict, our desire to push each side of the discussion has left us with various leaders that are so strong in their stance and heavy in the conflict that it's part of the issue. It doesn't help that we have a large, multi-level government that has significantly greater ability below the highest level, as compared to other countries. So while you may have 'right' president, you could could a 'left' governor, then 'right' mayor... and that doesn't include other influencing positions.

I know I've said it 10s of times and been saying it since before OOTP took off... the US is unlike any other country in the world and making comparisons with others is incredibly hard. Whether it's political, governmental, race/ethnicity, or religious, no other country is nearly as complicated. While not a 1:1 comparison, the closest thing I could think of is if the EU was the equivalent authority of the US government. (that would actually be more complicated due to underlying governments, but you get the general idea)

[Weasel]

I still can't understand people on my Facebook page that are saying this isn't that serious and it's just like the flu.

Flu (on average) is about 40k worldwide deaths a year.

Coronavirus is closing in on 70k in 3 months without looking like it's anywhere near slowing down/tailing off.

Isn't that 40k a US number?

The WHO estimates that between 290-600k die annually from the flu, 12k-61k in the US.

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-f ... every-year

Thats what I always thought as well, 40K for US only.

[GeorgesGoons]

A buddy of mine just told me that the police are handing out citations at Lowes for anyone coming out of the store with another person for not keeping social distancing.

I wonder what law that was violated for the citation. Our state does not have a stay at home order, nor does our city. It is recommended at this time but not mandated.

[GeorgesGoons]

I don't care, this shit is funny!

[nick]

A buddy of mine just told me that the police are handing out citations at Lowes for anyone coming out of the store with another person for not keeping social distancing.

I wonder what law that was violated for the citation. Our state does not have a stay at home order, nor does our city. It is recommended at this time but not mandated.

Walk out with someone else and find out ..

[GeorgesGoons]

A buddy of mine just told me that the police are handing out citations at Lowes for anyone coming out of the store with another person for not keeping social distancing.

I wonder what law that was violated for the citation. Our state does not have a stay at home order, nor does our city. It is recommended at this time but not mandated.

Walk out with someone else and find out ..

If I needed something I would.

[nick]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnew ... letter.amp

Lol meh. One less hillbilly state.

[shel311]

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


US projected deaths, as early as I can remember started at 2.2 million. Then went down, then down again, then we got the 100k-200k number from Fauci.

Now this site has it peaking at 81k.

Hopefully we get a couple more new projections trending down before it's all said and done.

[GeorgesGoons]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnew ... letter.amp

Lol meh. One less hillbilly state.

A state-wide "stay at home" order makes zero sense in Nebraska. It makes sense in the greater Omaha area, but not the whole state where 2/3's of the states counties haven't reported a case and the economic toll would be devastating for areas that doesn't need that added burden.