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Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:03 pm
by OracleHCR
DRiccio21 wrote:
OracleHCR wrote:It is horrible that anybody loses their life in a situation like this. The bottom line is if he hadn't committed any crimes, he in all likelihood would not have lost his life. Without knowing more than the basics of what has been reported, I know he broke at least 3 laws. Brandishing a firearm, resisting arrest and possession of a firearm. The guy had a felony conviction and was a registered sexual predator. He wasn't allowed to own any kind of firearm.
police officers jobs are to literally deal with EXACTLY those types of people

its a very simplistic thing to say 'well if he wasn't committing crimes'

thats like saying if a doctor killed someone in surgery 'well if he didn't smoke and have a tumor i had to remove i wouldn't have killed him'

all the things you're saying are true, none of it is relevant to using deadly force
It's not simplistic. It is the truth. Your scenario with the doctor is completely off base. That is apples to oranges.
They came into the situation knowing he had allegedly broken one law by brandishing a firearm. Right away they had to be cautious knowing he probably possessed a weapon. Then he compounded the threat by resisting arrest. Of course they were twitchy and any threatening movement by him at that point could only lead to deadly force. You don't shoot to wound. If you discharge your weapon at someone, you shoot to kill. The felony possession of a firearm is probably what led to him resisting arrest. He was going to jail no matter what.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:06 pm
by shel311
Suspect walking back and forth in body armor other 7th floor of the BofA building.

Damn Dallas police scanner is gonna have me up late tonight, I see it coming.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:13 pm
by shel311

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:14 pm
by DRiccio21
2 people in custody, Omni hotel cleared

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:19 pm
by shel311
I think CNN said something about a 24 year old make with an AR 15 not confident in the validity of that though.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:22 pm
by DRiccio21
those shots sounded like bazookas in those videos

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:26 pm
by shel311
Official report as of right now, 3 cops shot non life threatening. 1 officer killed.

Active shooter being negotiated with, sounds like he's at least cornered. Other suspect is in custody.

ETA; 3 officers dead now, 2 in surgery, 1 more critical.

2 snipers fired at 10 cops from a raised position in a parking lot.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:37 pm
by DRiccio21
now they are saying 10 shot, 3 officers dead

there were 2 snipers, no suspects in custody.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:48 pm
by shel311
Well shit, I hope that report turns out untrue
@LiamWBZ 3m3 minutes ago

UPDATE: #Dallas officials say the snipers have not been found. Others apprehended weren't the shooters. Active search for them. #WBZ

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:01 am
by shel311

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:07 am
by dakshdar
The Minnesota shooting screams bad traffic stop procedure. If it is made known that the stopped person has a permitted, concealed firearm on his person, it seems like a bad idea for both parties that the person reach somewhere that the officer can't see. Shouldn't, for the safety of everyone, the person be asked to exit the vehicle so the office can watch all actions? It doesn't seem unjust/a violation of rights.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:08 am
by shel311
Dallas Police Chief David Brown saying a bomb is potentially somewhere in downtown.

Interestingly enough, reading alot about people in cars stuck downtown as all roads are closed. Crazy situation with a potential bomb.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:15 am
by OracleHCR
dakshdar wrote:The Minnesota shooting screams bad traffic stop procedure. If it is made known that the stopped person has a permitted, concealed firearm on his person, it seems like a bad idea for both parties that the person reach somewhere that the officer can't see. Shouldn't, for the safety of everyone, the person be asked to exit the vehicle so the office can watch all actions? It doesn't seem unjust/a violation of rights.
Yeah. If I get stopped for some reason, I'm keeping my hands in plain sight and letting the officer know that my firearm is holstered beside my seat.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:16 am
by Crowes
4th officer has died

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:18 am
by DRiccio21
twitter saying the dudes name is Mark Hughes

also saying he's not a suspsect, but obviously nobody has a clue


edit: his brother did an interview, his name is corey hughes

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:23 am
by shel311
Yea, waking with the protesters just wouldn't seem like the move of a sniper.

And I've read there were multiple people open carrying along the protest.

Confirmed again as of now, no suspects in custody.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:53 am
by shel311
They legit just showed what appeared to be a cop get shot on TV.

Insanity.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:06 am
by shel311
Suspects supposedly in custody. Officer noticed suspicious guy speeding off in a Mercedes, eventually stopped 2 suspects on I-35.


Also, so crazy, sad:

https://mobile.twitter.com/seguifox13/s ... wsrc%5Etfw

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:19 am
by GeorgesGoons
After seeing the video of the guy shooting at the cops, I would not be surprised to hear that these criminals were Fort Hood soldiers. The movement and his stance as he fired is very military like.

Re: Random Discussions

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:10 am
by Cnasty
i went to bed at 9 last night and wake up to again to a city relating to me in mourning.

Sheesh!