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Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:38 pm
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:He hasn't been inefficient... He hasn't been himself, which I said... But he hasn't been inefficient.
He has a better PER than Paul George did in the postseason and has the highest EWA Of any sg in the postseason.
He hasn't been himself, like I said. But he hasn't been inefficient and he certainly isn't 'done'
Ok, like I said, you're the only one I've seen.
The Lebbys, Haberstrohs, and Abbotts have talked about it, wrote articles about the inefficiency, and basically talk about it like it's not even up for debate.
Like you said before, we'll agree to disagree.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:39 pm
by DRiccio21
Cnasty wrote:I didnt bash Lebron last year and I havent blasted him this year.
Simply pointing out that he is 2-12 in 2 straight games is not bashing but being merely shocked.
I think you like to "play it cool" to be on the other side of every one else's argument too hard sometimes.
Its ok to show some concern and step away from the bar graphs and abacuses every now and again.
Losing by 31 and quitting at the start of the 4th quarter is never acceptable under any circumstances that you may try to conjure up.
I mean this in the nicest way possible... Because I truly like you and shel.
I couldn't possibly give a fuck less what you or anyone thinks about 'how I play it'. I post what I believe and what I mean. You guys love to judge, I'm fine with that. but just know I'm not putting on an act to play anything 'cool'. I treat everything this way, I always look at things from a distance. It's why I don't get excited when the Mets start the season 30-19 every yr or why I trade my players in OOTP when people think its odd cause I'm in the playoffs when others are rotating rosters every week or how I manage my stocks. I'm not an emotional person, I don't think any of us are smart enough to know whats going to happen all the time so instead I like to play probabilities. I trust the process and I trust myself and whatever the result is I don't really get happy/upset by. I don't think u saw any 'I told you so' posts along the way. I didn't even post anything when Miami won last yr.
As for Show some concern... I think they could lose the series... Is that concern enough? I thought they could lose it before and all season. I don't think they will lose it but they certainly could. Whatever happens happens but I'm more than comfortable w Miami and Lebron and Wade and I'll roll with them and take my chances.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:41 pm
by shel311
In the Finals, wade I believe has taken 43 shots and scored 43 points. That's nowhere near his normal game, it's a huge gulf.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:42 pm
by DRiccio21
shel311 wrote:DRiccio21 wrote:He hasn't been inefficient... He hasn't been himself, which I said... But he hasn't been inefficient.
He has a better PER than Paul George did in the postseason and has the highest EWA Of any sg in the postseason.
He hasn't been himself, like I said. But he hasn't been inefficient and he certainly isn't 'done'
Ok, like I said, you're the only one I've seen.
The Lebbys, Haberstrohs, and Abbotts have talked about it, wrote articles about the inefficiency, and basically talk about it like it's not even up for debate.
Like you said before, we'll agree to disagree.
Being inefficient would reflect that you believe he is making his team worse.
If that's what you and Lebby and anyone else believe than yes I disagree with all of you. He hasn't been all time legend great like he normally is but he's not playing inefficiently IMO.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:42 pm
by nick
ouch i post in here so dave dont like me
.. thought we were making progress
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:43 pm
by DRiccio21
shel311 wrote:In the Finals, wade I believe has taken 43 shots and scored 43 points. That's nowhere near his normal game, it's a huge gulf.
I agree, it's nowhere near his normal game.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:46 pm
by Cnasty
If you dont care understand my side of it when I laugh at your attitude towards it when you come and judge mine.
it goes both ways of that. We can equally go "i told you so" on a number of different things and neither of us have ever done that. So dont think you are better than anyone else because of your stance and then judge other people because our "urgency" and "passion" is shown in different ways than yours.
Especially when most of the time its not even concerning your team.
You root and display your message your way and Ill take care of myself.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:47 pm
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:shel311 wrote:DRiccio21 wrote:He hasn't been inefficient... He hasn't been himself, which I said... But he hasn't been inefficient.
He has a better PER than Paul George did in the postseason and has the highest EWA Of any sg in the postseason.
He hasn't been himself, like I said. But he hasn't been inefficient and he certainly isn't 'done'
Ok, like I said, you're the only one I've seen.
The Lebbys, Haberstrohs, and Abbotts have talked about it, wrote articles about the inefficiency, and basically talk about it like it's not even up for debate.
Like you said before, we'll agree to disagree.
Being inefficient would reflect that you believe he is making his team worse.
If that's what you and Lebby and anyone else believe than yes I disagree with all of you. He hasn't been all time legend great like he normally is but he's not playing inefficiently IMO.
Purely statistical, the Heat have been much better when he's out of the game.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:56 pm
by DRiccio21
Cnasty wrote:If you dont care understand my side of it when I laugh at your attitude towards it when you come and judge mine.
it goes both ways of that. We can equally go "i told you so" on a number of different things and neither of us have ever done that. So dont think you are better than anyone else because of your stance and then judge other people because our "urgency" and "passion" is shown in different ways than yours.
Especially when most of the time its not even concerning your team.
You root and display your message your way and Ill take care of myself.
I don't know if you understood my point. I care about your view... I'm just not going to change my personality cause you think 'I'm trying to play it cool'. I don't think i'm better than anyone or smarter than anyone, as i've said a million times, I'm pretty stupid actually. And I certainly don't judge anyone here. Although in retrospect, saying shel was pulling a Corey was somewhat judging. But I think you appreciate and accept the fact you change your mind a lot.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:59 pm
by DRiccio21
shel311 wrote:
Purely statistical, the Heat have been much better when he's out of the game.
You understand stats enough to take that type of stat with a grain of salt and that isn't necessarily reflective of him and his performance alone.
But again, if your argument is the heat are better without wade because he's inefficient, I'll take the other side and we can move on
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:01 am
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:shel311 wrote:
Purely statistical, the Heat have been much better when he's out of the game.
You understand stats enough to take that type of stat with a grain of salt and that isn't necessarily reflective of him and his performance alone.
But again, if your argument is the heat are better without wade because he's inefficient, I'll take the other side and we can move on
It's a flawed(not flame lol) stat, but not useless stat.
Also, all those 3s Danny Green keeps hitting, Wade is usually guarding, and fading away from him.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:04 am
by DRiccio21
shel311 wrote:
Also, all those 3s Danny Green keeps hitting, Wade is usually guarding, and fading away from him.
I don't disagree w him being a lazy defender. But not sure where that fits into this discussion. I think Wade has been lazy defensively despite his steals/blocks for a long time.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:10 am
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:shel311 wrote:
Also, all those 3s Danny Green keeps hitting, Wade is usually guarding, and fading away from him.
I don't disagree w him being a lazy defender. But not sure where that fits into this discussion. I think Wade has been lazy defensively despite his steals/blocks for a long time.
Well if his his laziness is allowing Green to be the highest scorer in these 3 games, he's had 43 points on 43 shots, and I think 4 total rebounds in 3 games, I don't see where the efficient player is, I just don't
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:25 am
by bigred
Spurs just hit another 3
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:27 am
by swellvermin
All this talk about how the Heat blew tonight. Can the Silver and Black get some credit, though? What a response after the game two 19 point loss! Yeah, the Heat played horribly, but you should give credit to the Spurs and those guys, Green and Neal. They're players, ALL of them; the whole team. Not just one person doing all the work, like LeBron, the best player in the world. Why is Danny Green leading the scoring for these finals if LeBron is the best on Earth?
***EDIT***
JADED FAN
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:44 am
by Cnasty
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:35 am
by ReignOnU
I think we can all agree that the Heat would have won if they had Monta Ellis and not Wade... right?
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:27 am
by shel311
Ouch
Ethan Strauss ?@SherwoodStrauss 10h
LeBron is shooting 52/211 (24.6%) outside the restricted area through 18 career NBA Finals games.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:40 pm
by ReignOnU
He wears the wrong jeans.
Re: NBA 2012-2013 Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:28 pm
by ReignOnU
ReignOnU wrote:Everything you need to know about game 4...
Spurs Win.
