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I'm done with domination. This mode just doesnt interest me anymore. Ever since starting to play Deathmatch I have really started to enjoy this game. Sure you have to deal with some noob tubes but on Invasion last night with all of you guys I was noob tubed 3-4 times in a row at my spawn point in Domination. I refuse to play domination from now on. I'm only sticking with TDM for now unless someone can talk me into playing HQ or something.

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that sucks george.....I enjoy playing with you (no homo)

Noob tubes are just like sniping - Trendon

Hoos wrote:Noob tubes are just like sniping - Trendon

+1

for whatever reason noob tubes dont bug me all that much....

i use them for challenges and shit once in a while

Time to Scrim George!!!

Hoos wrote:Noob tubes are just like sniping - Trendon

It really is. What is the fundamental difference. They are both cowardly and have very liberal hit detection. Your turn.

But, then again, domination is a game for cowards in the first place.

trendon wrote:Your turn

Oh, don't you worry. I will have something for you soon enough.

Domination is only for skilled players with excellent communication skills. Scrubs need not apply.

BFiVL wrote:Domination is only for skilled players with excellent communication skills. Scrubs need not apply.

Spawn camping for an entire round is skill? I'm with George, I'll pass. I tolerate it when it comes up in Mosh Pit because you take the good with the bad. However, it is far and away my least favorite game mode. The first team to get 'B' wins the match 75% of the time.

It is also the only game where the best strategy and the most utilized strategy is to camp.

Edit: Actually, no, I like Capture the Flag the least. Not because of the game mechanics, but because of the awful scoring. You could capture five flags and kill 20 guys and end up with less XP/Bonus than being on the losing team of any other mode.

Trendon Falsehood #1:Dont think anyone I have ever played with has ever spawned camped before. We have pinned teams down at their flag where they cant escape but never stood directly where people spawned a killed them before they run 2 feet. Once again its called teamwork. If their team would work toegether instead of running one at a time like tards, they have a fighting chance.

Trendon Falsehood#2: The best strat is not to camp. Camping requires no movement and staying in one place that is secluded. B flag is not secluded and is not where a camper can just sit. You have to have team work to protect B rotating in and out as people die at the flag but playing a team that does not understand going one at a time to a flag is just fucking retarded. You have to have good team work.

Trendon Falsehood #3: get B win 75% of the time. Love to test this one out in a private match. I am willing to bet a penny, 3dog clan could let you and your team have B first and we will still win more than 25% of the time. Why is that? Because we attack as a group and dont work apart.

BFiVL wrote:Trendon Falsehood #1:Dont think anyone I have ever played with has ever spawned camped before. We have pinned teams down at their flag where they cant escape but never stood directly where people spawned a killed them before they run 2 feet. Once again its called teamwork. If their team would work toegether instead of running one at a time like tards, they have a fighting chance.

Trendon Falsehood#2: The best strat is not to camp. Camping requires no movement and staying in one place that is secluded. B flag is not secluded and is not where a camper can just sit. You have to have team work to protect B rotating in and out as people die at the flag but playing a team that does not understand going one at a time to a flag is just fucking retarded. You have to have good team work.

Trendon Falsehood #3: get B win 75% of the time. Love to test this one out in a private match. I am willing to bet a penny, 3dog clan could let you and your team have B first and we will still win more than 25% of the time. Why is that? Because we attack as a group and dont work apart.

1. Hoos has admitted it twice on these very same forums in very precise words.

2. No, you are completely wrong. Here is how domination works: work your ass off too get 'B' and hopefully get flag while also procuring your starting area's flag. Hover in between A/C and B. That's it. That's the strategy. When you die, you are likely going to be put somewhere convenient. I loved playing Domination with you guys - I even showed my work - because I miraculously tripled my productivity. Get B, peel back a little bit and find yourself a nice spot looking over/past B and towards C. Game, set, match barring someone on the other team going nuts. I play the game, too, you know.

3. I am very proud of one thing about myself, I don't spout statistics I pulled from my ass. Remember when I tracked the stats of games I played with you guys compared to ones I didn't? Remember when I tracked over 200 matches to see what gave the best score, XP, and bonus? Well, I was also tracking things like:

- Success rate in search and destroy on planting bomb
- Success rate in search and destroy on defusing planted bomb
- Success rate in search and destroy on defending the plant
- Success rate in demolition of each round

And ... success rate of the first team to capture B. It wasn't 75% but it was above 70%.

Domination is easy mode. It is static and the game environment never changes. It also is the biggest campfest in the whole game, by far. But, somehow, it is considered strategic in Domination but cheap in Team Deathmatch. It should be reverse. Dying means something in TDM as it is points for the other team. It is why in Hardcore, you shoot your teammates in last stand.

Every other game mode has a dynamic, shifting flow to the map that actually prevents rampant camping. Domination does not. It is the equivalent of the vilified East Room. "We are going to do this and, if it works, we will stand here forever."

Even HQ, which I like only because it groups people together nicely for my AT4 and Danger Close combo (I recently got a six kill with one rocket in Quarry), the camping is only temporary because the area of importance shifts. TDM never has an area of importance, making camping a one-off thing. Sabotage can get frustrating if you find a team that treats it like it is Domination (i.e. notpicking up the bomb and just circling it) but, generally speaking, that mode is just pure chaos. Demolition somewhat rivals Domination, but even that game mode is saved by the sense of urgency. I'll also forgive Demolition because it contains one of my favorite moments in gaming ... when one bomb site is destroyed and 12 people all rush, simultaneously, to the other one; makes for a really fun 30 seconds!

All in all, I don't feel my opinion is off base. If you get B, it is cruise control. You keep talking about how well you play together ... of course! You all have the same game plan on the easiest game mode to manipulate. Get B, stand near it, win.

BFiVL wrote:Trendon Falsehood #1:Dont think anyone I have ever played with has ever spawned camped before. We have pinned teams down at their flag where they cant escape but never stood directly where people spawned a killed them before they run 2 feet. Once again its called teamwork. If their team would work toegether instead of running one at a time like tards, they have a fighting chance.

bullshit. in Highrise once you guys have the second flag you run to the other building and wait by the windows.

http://onlinedynasty.net/forum/viewtopi ... mp#p121157

Topic: How to Play Domination

In a tutorial written by Hoos to explain to people how 3Dog play Domination, he had this to say ...

"Once we have 2 flags, we would like to close the envelope on the 3rd flag and trap the opposing team in their own base. Basically, we spawn camp them. If the game is close, we just camp our 2 flags."

Here is another one from Hoos, noticing a trend here, where he complains about how far he spawns from the flags. Oh, the horror!

http://onlinedynasty.net/forum/viewtopi ... it=karachi

"Derail....I hate how far you spawn from the flags. It's also full of people that can't snipe for shit but sit way in the back and don't make any attempt to actually snipe a flag. It's not bad for other modes but it's a complete Zzzz fest for Domination."

And in that same thread ...

Hoos wrote:Not sure why kirachi gets the hate. I love getting over the C flag and spawn camping the hell out of the other team.

nick wrote:

BFiVL wrote:Trendon Falsehood #1:Dont think anyone I have ever played with has ever spawned camped before. We have pinned teams down at their flag where they cant escape but never stood directly where people spawned a killed them before they run 2 feet. Once again its called teamwork. If their team would work toegether instead of running one at a time like tards, they have a fighting chance.

bullshit. in Highrise once you guys have the second flag you run to the other building and wait by the windows.

They won't see it that way. It is strategic to camp on Domination (which it is, I am not denying that) but not strategic anywhere else. Bah.

AJ and Biffy might wonder what my hard-on is about this topic and it is just a simple fact of me wanting them to admit that they only play Domination because it is easy mode; easy path to high kill ratios and wins.

Notice I didn't include Hoos and Mike because, with those two, there is no questioning it. I don't need them to admit it.

Spawn camping on highrise is the best!!1!

I like make the other team give up all hope. I especially like those players that have a little fight left in them. They fight their way to the front of the building and only have a few more feet till freedom and.......BOOM, headshot bitch! Their pain sustains me.

However, I do ask those that condone such behavior....

Where the hell are we supposed to go on Highrise once we have 2 flags? I love the map but it's terribly designed and almost always results in 1 team getting trapped in their own base.

Hoos wrote:Spawn camping on highrise is the best!!1!

I like make the other team give up all hope. I especially like those players that have a little fight left in them. They fight their way to the front of the building and only have a few more feet till freedom and.......BOOM, headshot bitch! Their pain sustains me.

However, I do ask those that condone such behavior....

Where the hell are we supposed to go on Highrise once we have 2 flags? I love the map but it's terribly designed and almost always results in 1 team getting trapped in their own base.

Once again, I am not knocking the strategy. You have no choice. I like to go get the third flag because I think it is fun to have all three but it could be a Trojan horse of sorts, inviting them "in" to your encampment that was working so well.

This all started with me accusing you guys of only playing Domination because it is easy. I want to play with you guys, but playing Domination 27 times ain't for me.

1337.

There is camping is domination but i dont care unless your on my team If you camp then you dont capture flags which means you dont get points.(i mean holding two flags not 3 is the key) So you can camp when playing me i dont mind. If you dont think there is a strategy in domination then you dont know how to play domination. Its all about being on the same page.

I like most modes but now hate HQ which used to be my fav. THAT SHIT HAS NOTHING BUT CAMPING! It has no reward for the team trying to capture a hq because all guys do is sit on the target and use noob tubes and rocket launchers.

S & D = Best camper wins! Period!

Capture the flag is hella fun also when you have a group of guys to play with, fuck the points i just waant the win i have till next nov to get points so no hurry for me.

The reasons why i dont really like s & d and deathmatch that much is that i am too antsy to go out and kill someone. (i might be ADD or something)S&D and deathmatch require no strat unless you are running with a full crew

Sniping takes skill but if you do it on small maps then you are a camping bitch because nine times out of ten these scrubs fire from the hip which takes no skill.Big maps if your not using one or a rifle or some sort then your skillls are limited. I still refer these guys over the guys that do that weak ass commando bullshit that requires no skill and use their double shotty's.

I love mosh pit the most since i mostly play by myself so i tend to lose alot because guys just camp plus playing against a bunch of guys that play well together because they have great communication with each other.