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Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:56 am
by Mtwasik
Sorry guys, didn't know it was going to open yesterday, but voting aid is updated

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:01 am
by brwnbear
Mtwasik wrote:Sorry guys, didn't know it was going to open yesterday, but voting aid is updated
Anyone know when Massey will be updated?

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:02 am
by Uuaww
brwnbear wrote:
Mtwasik wrote:Sorry guys, didn't know it was going to open yesterday, but voting aid is updated
Anyone know when Massey will be updated?
usually monday

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:04 am
by buckeye76
Uuaww wrote:
brwnbear wrote:
Mtwasik wrote:Sorry guys, didn't know it was going to open yesterday, but voting aid is updated
Anyone know when Massey will be updated?
usually monday

its monday

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:55 pm
by dealer4014
Mtwasik wrote:Sorry guys, didn't know it was going to open yesterday, but voting aid is updated
no problem man, thanks for updating it!!

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:53 pm
by Daw1git
is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:58 pm
by DRiccio21
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:10 pm
by 6ftdeep
DRiccio21 wrote:
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.
good thing it still means something in points.. And I highly doubt a team ranked in week 1 would go 0-12 .. unless they just didn't play a game. And in some cases a teams ranking during a certain period when playing does matter. As early in the season a team could of been on point before later collapsing due to numerous reasons.. Does not make that team any less challenging or good when it was playing well early in the season.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:19 pm
by Mtwasik
DRiccio21 wrote:
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.
No, it shows what the team was when you beat them, and that's how its always done. For instance, end of the season, when you look back at Oklahoma's win yesterday, it will be over the 5th-ranked FSU team, not what they are ranked in Sept.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:24 pm
by DRiccio21
really? hhmm, my mistake.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:28 pm
by 6ftdeep
Mtwasik wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.
No, it shows what the team was when you beat them, and that's how its always done. For instance, end of the season, when you look back at Oklahoma's win yesterday, it will be over the 5th-ranked FSU team, not what they are ranked in Sept.
oh well then not all teams on the aid are showing the past rankings of some of the teams they played. I know it is quite a bit to check and double check.. But If people use the aid for that purpose, and see where some teams played so so ranked teams, and compared to similar team but that team is not showing some of its ranked oppts.. so might penalize them..

Not really that big of deal though for me as I m waiting for massey to release for voting to assist me as well..

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:33 pm
by Mtwasik
6ftdeep wrote:
Mtwasik wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.
No, it shows what the team was when you beat them, and that's how its always done. For instance, end of the season, when you look back at Oklahoma's win yesterday, it will be over the 5th-ranked FSU team, not what they are ranked in Sept.
oh well then not all teams on the aid are showing the past rankings of some of the teams they played. I know it is quite a bit to check and double check.. But If people use the aid for that purpose, and see where some teams played so so ranked teams, and compared to similar team but that team is not showing some of its ranked oppts.. so might penalize them..

Not really that big of deal though for me as I m waiting for massey to release for voting to assist me as well..
Which ones aren't showing up? Usually I'm able to catch which ones didn't transfer over from the previous week

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:36 pm
by 6ftdeep
Mtwasik wrote:
6ftdeep wrote:
Mtwasik wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:
Daw1git wrote:is the voting aid suppose to have ranked wins from past polls or just the current polls?
should only be current.

having a ranked win over a team in week 1 who ends up being 0-12 wouldn't mean much

wish voting didnt start until masseys were released, but oh well.
No, it shows what the team was when you beat them, and that's how its always done. For instance, end of the season, when you look back at Oklahoma's win yesterday, it will be over the 5th-ranked FSU team, not what they are ranked in Sept.
oh well then not all teams on the aid are showing the past rankings of some of the teams they played. I know it is quite a bit to check and double check.. But If people use the aid for that purpose, and see where some teams played so so ranked teams, and compared to similar team but that team is not showing some of its ranked oppts.. so might penalize them..

Not really that big of deal though for me as I m waiting for massey to release for voting to assist me as well..
Which ones aren't showing up? Usually I'm able to catch which ones didn't transfer over from the previous week

Quite a bit of them.. almost every team ranked # 3 down has games that are not showing the ranking of a ranked team with they played at that time .. Examples would be Ohio State not being ranked on anyone schedule , and I m pretty sure they were ranked through 6 weeks of the season. Teams ranked early in the season, TCU, FSU. .. SC is not showing as a ranked oppt on MST schedule, MSU not showing ranked on Michigans Schedule.. these are just examples,, there are others.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:33 pm
by VTrunNgun
Pretty sure Miami was ranked through the first several week of polls as well....

#justsayin 8-)

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:46 pm
by DRiccio21
VTrunNgun wrote:Pretty sure Miami was ranked through the first several week of polls as well....

#justsayin 8-)
and NC St wasn't when i played him week 1. so clearly that shouldn't count as much :lol:

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:08 pm
by The_Niddler
The Voting aid does not show rankings in previous weeks as it should either, as people mentioned, several teams were ranked earlier in the season and it is not showing that.

Do we know if this is something that will get fixed ASAP before this vote or should we not count on it?

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:24 pm
by buckeye76
50/50 JD. We will do our best to get it corrected. But if its not, vote accordingly.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:25 pm
by Mtwasik
ok, the system isn't working the same way it was last season, so I'll have to check on that, sorry guys. Last season, it wasn't adding in rankings to previous weeks. This won't happen again next season.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:28 pm
by buckeye76
Mtwasik wrote:ok, the system isn't working the same way it was last season, so I'll have to check on that, sorry guys. Last season, it wasn't adding in rankings to previous weeks. This won't happen again next season.

Thanks for looking into it Mark. It will be corrected for Season 23.

Re: Voting Aid is done

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:44 pm
by DRiccio21
just to make this clear... if you're looking at ranked wins like that you'd be rewarding teams who say beat say a top 15 ranked UNLV early in the year(who will probably end up ranked in the 80's or something on massey at the end) but not be rewarding BC for his win over me, since i don't think i was ranked at the time he beat me.

seems like a weird thing to take into account when voting.

everyone should and can vote as they like, maybe i'm just missing something here.