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Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:11 pm
by GeorgesGoons
The argument is who should start against lefties.
To start in RF:
Player A career numbers (162 game average):
.265/19/62, 2.7 WAR
defensive ratings:
10 overall rating in RF
63/59/43 (-0.6 ZR in 10 games)
Player B career numbers (162 game average):
.233/13/37, 0.7 WAR
defensive ratings:
90 overall rating in RF
74/102/82 (16.9 ZR) 1x Gold Glove
Does the lack of defense and a better offense outweigh the lack of offense and a gold glove?
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:28 pm
by Wasted Memory
Looks like this one might get filed under "Who Cares"
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:29 pm
by GeorgesGoons
Wasted Memory wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:28 pm
Looks like this one might get filed under "Who Cares"
most likely
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:50 pm
by wdoupis
If you continue to play player A in RF if his ratings are 63/59/43 then he should eventually get to around 50ish in RF and be below average but playable. Also would like to know their ratings specifically vs LHP
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:00 pm
by GeorgesGoons
wdoupis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:50 pm
If you continue to play player A in RF if his ratings are 63/59/43 then he should eventually get to around 50ish in RF and be below average but playable. Also would like to know their ratings specifically vs LHP
Player A is significantly better ratings wise, just doesn't play up to the ratings.
55/83/67/50/68
player B
45/45/47/47/51
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:31 pm
by nick
Whoever has better splits vs lefties
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:33 pm
by ajalves
Wasted Memory wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:28 pm
Looks like this one might get filed under "Who Cares"
this is my favorite Wasted Memory post of all time
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:02 pm
by The_Niddler
Depends on if you want more Defense or Offense out of him.
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:49 pm
by GeorgesGoons
The_Niddler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:02 pm
Depends on if you want more Defense or Offense out of him.
Who do you think provides a better +/- with their offense/defense I guess is where it lies.
For me, if the splits were for right handed pitchers I'd go with offense over defense because there are far more right handers out there than lefties. Player B is getting roughly 1/3 of his plate appearances from left handed pitchers.
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:01 pm
by ajalves
Seems like there are man more SPs that are lefthanded compared to the past... a lot more LH hitters as well
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:07 pm
by DParm
For the record, no one but George himself said the word start. the words that were uttered that turned George into a maniac were "He hits lefties better than ____" and his head exploded. It was actually quite fucking hilarious.
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:50 pm
by The_Niddler
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:49 pm
The_Niddler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:02 pm
Depends on if you want more Defense or Offense out of him.
Who do you think provides a better +/- with their offense/defense I guess is where it lies.
For me, if the splits were for right handed pitchers I'd go with offense over defense because there are far more right handers out there than lefties. Player B is getting roughly 1/3 of his plate appearances from left handed pitchers.
No one can answer this but you.
Do you have other power hitters or great contact hitters in your offense?
If so and you don't really need a power hitter, then maybe you need better D, but this is completely your call and what you are looking to do with your team and lineup.
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:36 am
by GeorgesGoons
DParm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:07 pm
For the record, no one but George himself said the word start. the words that were uttered that turned George into a maniac were "He hits lefties better than ____" and his head exploded. It was actually quite fucking hilarious.
We were discussing a trade for Anderson
If there was only somewhere you could go to see what was said at the beginning:
DP - New York Ducks 9:17 AM
what if i gave Temple with pierce?
9:18
yeah i have a bad contract i want to dump not help pay for lol (just read your post in general channel)
GeorgesGoons 10:21 AM
Temple does nothing for me. He would be optioned to AAA, so I'd still want 50% with pierce
DP - New York Ducks 10:28 AM
he would start over Gomez vs LHP cuz he hits them better, but its cool
10:28
and Gabril for that matter
GeorgesGoons 11:50 AM
He is a defensive liability so he wouldn't start over either. And he is a career .265 hitter against lefties, so let's not pretend he is some kind of great hitter against lefties where it would be smart to start him over anyone of my oitfielders
11:50
Again, he would be optioned to AAA due to him being nothing better than a DH
11:52
He should be starting over Wilson my your logic against lefties. But you dont
DP - New York Ducks 12:09 PM
i didnt say that...but hes defnitely an upgrade to 2/3rds of your out field and hes my 4th. simmer down george before you have a heart attack'
GeorgesGoons 12:10 PM
upgrade?!? Guy is a DH at best. He wouldn't start over any of my outfielders. Hell, he'd probably sit the bench in AAA as well. He can't play center
12:11
he can't play RF
DP - New York Ducks 12:11 PM
why would he start over wilson?
GeorgesGoons 12:11 PM
he is a LF'er at best
12:12
against lefties he should start over wilson using your logic. I wouldn't start him over wilson because defense is much more key to winning than some guy hitting .260 with zero power against lefties
12:13
I'll put it this way, if he was on the waiver wire I would scroll right past him as he gives the team zero added value
DP - New York Ducks 12:13 PM
why?
GeorgesGoons 12:14 PM
he is a 4th outfielder at best....and he only plays LF. If you haven't seen..I kinda got a pretty good fielder there. He has zero arm so he can't play RF and he doesn't have the range to play CF
I wasn't even trying to throw your name under the bus here with this dumb ass logic. But I guess I would expect nothing less from someone that traded away Conner for peanuts just to get under Revenue Sharing.
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am
by DParm
definitely a chick move George. and with this im done!
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:49 am
by GeorgesGoons
DParm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am
definitely a chick move George. and with this im done!
Nobody likes someone with no integrity.
And then I get this gem via Slack
DP - New York Ducks 8:47 AM
i think im quitting bro. have fun
8:47
fuckl you and your bullshit
8:47
piece of shit
Bye homie
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:01 am
by Boston_Rob
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:49 am
DParm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am
definitely a chick move George. and with this im done!
Nobody likes someone with no integrity.
And then I get this gem via Slack
DP - New York Ducks 8:47 AM
i think im quitting bro. have fun
8:47
fuckl you and your bullshit
8:47
piece of shit
Bye homie
CYUH!
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:03 am
by GeorgesGoons
DParm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:07 pm
For the record, no one but George himself said the word start. the words that were uttered that turned George into a maniac were "He hits lefties better than ____" and his head exploded. It was actually quite fucking hilarious.
you know what is more hilarious?!?
Someone quitting over getting called out for lying on the boards
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:04 am
by shel311
DParm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am
definitely a chick move George. and with this im done!
Posting a DM isn't exactly cool, but it's not as bad as you putting George on blast and lying about it and George posting the DM to prove that you indeed did lie about it.
This has all the vibes of Kevin complaining about his illegal trade not going through and blaming Boston Rob for it.

Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:07 am
by Boston_Rob
Haha, I LOVE IT! GET OUT NERD!!!!!
Re: Who would you start?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:11 am
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:04 am
DParm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am
definitely a chick move George. and with this im done!
Posting a DM isn't exactly cool, but it's not as bad as you putting George on blast and lying about it and George posting the DM to prove that you indeed did lie about it.
This has all the vibes of Kevin complaining about his illegal trade not going through and blaming Boston Rob for it.
I would never post a DM unless it was to put on blast someone that said one thing in DM and then completely deny it in the public.
But with that said, I have some gems of a conversation with him.
I just want him to trade me Chamberlain before quitting