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I was just wondering how you guys look at the polls when voting.

If week 2 has passed and a top 10 team (#7) didnt play (used GT, cause he actually played) and is setting at 0-0...but # 9 did play and is 2-0. Do you slid #9 in front of #7? Or if #8 is 1-0...do you move him up over #7 also even though he is missing a game, but has put forth the effort.
I was just curious how you guys take in to part unplayed games while voting. Granted its not that coaches fault all the time...but at the same time its not hard to play 2 games a week.

if they were likely to win the game, i don't just count it as a win. What annoys me is when you have two ranked teams playing b/c if the game was played, it would have significant implications on my vote in the poll.

i try my best not to "punish" a team this early in the season for unplayed games. usually i will wait till midseason and if a team has 1 to 3 games played i might start moving teams that have played and won ahead of them.

it is tough to decide on it though. like Ank said it may just be a schedule/availability issue. i guess keep that in mind once they start getting their games played. look back at your early polls to see where you had them and decide if they should be back up there.

It's really hard to not take that into account. I don't necessarily move a team down because of it, but I think I'm more apt to move a team UP that has played their game and won convincingly. It's not really a dis on the team that didn't play, but more of a reward to the team that did.

On top of this, how do you guys vote when it comes to know that a team already played their game for next week and lost? I know the right thing to do is not factor it in. But I think I've found myself cheating and if there is a comparable team through 2 weeks, I might be more likely to put the comparable team just ahead of them.

I like to wait till everyone should have played 4-6 games. Now if they dont play by then I dont put them in the top 25, just the way I do it. However if a #6 didnt play his games and #7 did I will put him in front of him.

I didn't put anybody in the Top 10 that was 0-0. USC was 11, followed by the others. When they play, if they win, they will move up.

I dont move anyone down who is behind on games.

The reason is simple. I don't have the time nor the patience to consult each scheduling for me to decide who is really behind on the game. And sometimes it's no one's fault the game is behind, life happens.

So, if a team is 0-0 after weeks 1 and 2, or even 3 and 4, I will still leave them #1 or wherever they were, hypothetically.

These things will all fix themselves once that team gets caught up and I would get too confused keeping track of my own polls if I would drop em down and have to think about putting them back up, lol.

0-0 this early in the season i don't move them down

now mid season and missing 4 of 6 games then i might move them down some

but by end of season it all clears itself out

lets use me (FSU) for example

I have one hell of a schedule

so lets say you slid me out of the polls
but then I win out like marino use to do with Miami

do you put me in the championship in the final poll because i am undefeated or do you move a 1 lost team ahead of me because he played his games on time


I give people time because like someone else said reallife does happen and work more than a party

like with me I played my CUP but my other 2 guys was out due to work and I don't really play until the weekend due to work (drive trucks) and am not home much during the week because i am on the road

so due you slid me down because of my job?

just some random thoughts

For me any team in the top 25 that was 0-0 stayed the same spot they were voted in the pre-season, I just moved teams that were behind them, ahead of them. Now if they are 0-0 after perhaps week 5-6 then they start dropping.

none of your bussiness except that i will not vote for shelly all season

I vote best records, starting with the power conferences. I base it somewhat on the previous poll, but mine will move around a bit. Like people said, it generally sorts itself out by the end.

If a team is 0-0 after at this point a week and a half I will move them down. It will all work itself out, but I am 100% not going to reward so guy with not playing games while others should get there chance in the top 25.

Now if I notice someone has posted in the sceduling forum saying they are going to be out I wont move them down.

ok I have seen this a couple of times since being here but just wondering what people think

ok lets say week 2 poll

Memphis #1
USC #2
Texas #3

now memphis is behind on games so voters slide him down and place him around #5
end the season these are the only 3 undefeated teams left with the last poll looking like

USC #1
Texas #2
Memphis #3

All played tough schedules and have great coaches so do you put Memphis back in the title game or do you keep him out of the championship because he didn't get his games in as quick as USC or Texas did?

Daw1git wrote:do you keep him out of the championship because he didn't get his games in as quick as USC or Texas did?

yes i do

Daw1git wrote:ok I have seen this a couple of times since being here but just wondering what people think

ok lets say week 2 poll

Memphis #1
USC #2
Texas #3

now memphis is behind on games so voters slide him down and place him around #5
end the season these are the only 3 undefeated teams left with the last poll looking like

USC #1
Texas #2
Memphis #3

All played tough schedules and have great coaches so do you put Memphis back in the title game or do you keep him out of the championship because he didn't get his games in as quick as USC or Texas did?

if those are the only 3 undefeated, and no games were simmed, I don't even look at previous poll or who got the games in first.. I may be the only one, but I don't use previous poll as a voting factor, I only use it to help determine strength of schedule/victories. If I feel a team deserves to be #1, I don't care if he is ranked low or leapfrogs another team who is ahead of them.

oldschoola wrote:none of your bussiness except that i will not vote for shelly all season

You're dead to me!!!

Daw1git wrote:ok I have seen this a couple of times since being here but just wondering what people think

ok lets say week 2 poll

Memphis #1
USC #2
Texas #3

now memphis is behind on games so voters slide him down and place him around #5
end the season these are the only 3 undefeated teams left with the last poll looking like

USC #1
Texas #2
Memphis #3

All played tough schedules and have great coaches so do you put Memphis back in the title game or do you keep him out of the championship because he didn't get his games in as quick as USC or Texas did?

Personally, I'd never drop Memphis.

Guys say they drop teams for not playing because it will all work itself out. Well, I use the same logic by NOT dropping teams. Eventually, those games will get played or simmed, so I just keep it as is cause i'm not going into each scheduling thread to see who is and isn't trying hard to get a game in, lol.

I vote people that play ahead of those that do not regardless of the reason for them not getting in their scheduled game. I know that may not be very popular, but I think it is better to reward the guys that are playing rather than to not. In time everyone will have there games in and most of us are more interested in the final poll then the week 2 poll. I also always vote unbeaten teams first, then one loss teams, and so on. I never EVER vote for myself, however I do not think I have ever been good enough to warrant votes.....

personally i would never have Memphis as the #1 team in a week2 poll. if this was 3010, maybe, but would you put a mid-major #1 that early in the season? especially if usc and texas are undefeated?

and in the end, regardless of who gets behind, usc/texas would more than likely play in the championship because of who they play in the season.

and dont think they're arent guys who "duck" tough opponents till they get a few games under their belts