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We're a ways from starting, but figured I would keep everyone up to date.

** Coaches reports will now have a choice of giving your opponent 0-5 for a score rather than the 1-5 as in the past

** The top and bottom coaches reports will no longer be thrown out.

i don't have an opinion on this, yet, but can I ask why?

VeniVediV1ci wrote:i don't have an opinion on this, yet, but can I ask why?

I assume the crickets mean you cant ask why...

Perhaps they found virtually no deviation between the reports? Adding a number and increasing the amount of reports increasing the denominator and, hopefully, the spread between great, good, poor, and shitty coaches.

To get a "more true" and accurate score.

If someone deserves a zero, they should get a zero not a 1.

Same for highest and lowest. When we look at a coaches report score we want to see the ACTUAL score, unadjusted for any issues we may have had with the system when it was new and I introduced it.

100% should be 100%

hey i do have a question as far as how to grade ...should help everyone



okay lets say i play maine

i found they used a glitchy delay bump defense

now on the coaches reports

(A) should i drop lets say defense to a 4 and overall to a 4

(B) drop his defense to a 4 (does this effect his final score in the end)

(c) drop his coaches realism and defense and overall down

Daw1git wrote:hey i do have a question as far as how to grade ...should help everyone



okay lets say i play maine

i found they used a glitchy delay bump defense

now on the coaches reports

(A) should i drop lets say defense to a 4 and overall to a 4

(B) drop his defense to a 4 (does this effect his final score in the end)

(c) drop his coaches realism and defense and overall down

If they don't get a 5 on EVERYTHING, they shouldn't get a 5 on "overall", IMO.

In your case, I'd say A. That said, if you're talking about a "glitchy delay bump defense", that sounds like the "press" plays in the playbook, and that's not a glitch--it's just a play where the defenders bump w/o jamming up to the line.

jsence2 wrote:

Daw1git wrote:hey i do have a question as far as how to grade ...should help everyone



okay lets say i play maine

i found they used a glitchy delay bump defense

now on the coaches reports

(A) should i drop lets say defense to a 4 and overall to a 4

(B) drop his defense to a 4 (does this effect his final score in the end)

(c) drop his coaches realism and defense and overall down

If they don't get a 5 on EVERYTHING, they shouldn't get a 5 on "overall", IMO.

In your case, I'd say A. That said, if you're talking about a "glitchy delay bump defense", that sounds like the "press" plays in the playbook, and that's not a glitch--it's just a play where the defenders bump w/o jamming up to the line.

That to me is stupid. So if you get three A's and one B in your tests, you get a B for the final grade. No it doesn't work that way.

I honestly think you should go 0-5 with .5 increments It wouldn't be that hard to put that in there. I think this way you would a get a more accurate score.

Quest4Gold wrote:

jsence2 wrote:
If they don't get a 5 on EVERYTHING, they shouldn't get a 5 on "overall", IMO.

In your case, I'd say A. That said, if you're talking about a "glitchy delay bump defense", that sounds like the "press" plays in the playbook, and that's not a glitch--it's just a play where the defenders bump w/o jamming up to the line.

That to me is stupid. So if you get three A's and one B in your tests, you get a B for the final grade. No it doesn't work that way.

I honestly think you should go 0-5 with .5 increments It wouldn't be that hard to put that in there. I think this way you would a get a more accurate score.

2nd

Quest, I like your idea. That's my point though--if a game doesn't get all 10s on IGN on the sub-reviews, it doesn't get a 10. It'll get like a 9.5 or something if it's a terrific game.

We should have the increments for that reason.

I had a possible suggestion and/or question. I was wondering if it should be mandatory for every coach to be signed up and active in the season showdown thing. If we are going to continue with "guess run" being illegal, I'd like to be 100% sure that my opponent is doing it to me before I dock them for it. Just a suggestion. IMO, it can sometimes be hard to tell if this feature is being abused or not as momentum can get out of hand on this game as well. Just an idea I had, it may be too late to sign up for it anyways, not sure. If everyone was signed up for it, it would make thins a hell of alot easier IMO.

O.K.Shark, Its SO SO obvious when someone does it...its literally more obvious(almost) than the season showdown thing popping up and giving them strategy points for it.


Diggin' the new changes. Most of us have been in the league for year and years...I'm no longer worried about getting 1 or 2 terribles scores as a result of someone being bitter over a loss. Plus if ever average less than a 3 overall on a coaching report...I'm confident the admins will treat it like the bullshyt it is.

sunspotiens wrote: Plus if ever average less than a 3 overall on a coaching report...I'm confident the admins will treat it like the bullshyt it is.

But straight 4's across the board will put you on probation. And I believe 4's should be considered a decent score, but should also be addressed after the game with your opponent. If I give a 4 I explain to them after the game what I had a problem with so they wont have to wait till after the season or at the mid season report to know they are doing things wrong. I think this is something we need to stress to our new coaches that if they give 4's they should explain to their opponent what was wrong with their game play. And for us that have 5+ seasons under our belt we should be trying to mentor the newer guys when we give them 4's because they may not think they are doing anything wrong.

GeorgesGoons wrote:

sunspotiens wrote: Plus if ever average less than a 3 overall on a coaching report...I'm confident the admins will treat it like the bullshyt it is.

But straight 4's across the board will put you on probation. And I believe 4's should be considered a decent score, but should also be addressed after the game with your opponent. If I give a 4 I explain to them after the game what I had a problem with so they wont have to wait till after the season or at the mid season report to know they are doing things wrong. I think this is something we need to stress to our new coaches that if they give 4's they should explain to their opponent what was wrong with their game play. And for us that have 5+ seasons under our belt we should be trying to mentor the newer guys when we give them 4's because they may not think they are doing anything wrong.

Yeah, I believe .5s would be good addition.. because I think some start as 5 as perfect and some believe that is very hard to score 5s.. And will score 4s based on playstyle.. such as a running team.. running the ball 65-70% of the time.. or a passing team passing the ball 65-70% of time. Saying they didnt mix it up , but that is their gamestyle no one should be docked for playstyle.. Same with zone and man in my opinion, if you have less talent or just overall slower players,, you gonna lean toward zone in an effort to prevent giving up the huge plays you would otherwise do so in man... Cause your team is just not talented enough.

You would think a 4 with the current grade scale is not perfect, but still good.. But really it is not cause as said 4s are really 80% . And 80% based on avgs is assuming the guy is swiss cheese. WHere as a 4.5 would be like a 90.. not great but still solid.. Just an opinion.

There are so many nit picky people in this league, the .5 is just another reason for someone to make your score a little higer or lower.

In all honesty since the invention of coaches reports I have never given anything lower than a 3 except maybe twice......and both those guys are gone.

And I agree with you Kyshark, no idea when someone is doing guess run....cause I have asked guys after the game if they did cause it appeared their d line blew my ass up but they always denied it.

packsyD22 wrote:And I agree with you Kyshark, no idea when someone is doing guess run....cause I have asked guys after the game if they did cause it appeared their d line blew my ass up but they always denied it.

Go to the highlights and look at a replay after the game.

Not to sound like an ass, but how do you read defenses if you haven't seen this?

Basically the ENTIRE front 7 make a beeline either right up the middle, to the left, or to the right. I know you're a good passer so you're out there reading defenses well, so you'd know it if it happened to you. I'm 99% sure you haven't seen it.

I agree with the .5 and also agree with a 4 being a decent score, definitely not worthy of probation. It's above average.

Put the scale 1-100 with .1 increments

Weasel wrote:Put the scale 1-100 with .1 increments