NDL FANTASY FOOTBALL DYNASTY LEAGUE

[SuddenBlues]

I agree yahoo is way better then ESPN... also i would rather see like 4 or 5 keepers not 6... that is just me thought honestly i dont care if you want to give me 6 thats fine i just think it would be more fair to only have like 5 keepers. Also rookie draft was always cool but it will take a while... so i would say just draft rookies in the draft.... the draft should be ordered from last place last year to first place last year. Waiver wire would be nice and also i think we should be able to trade if anyone wants. Like i have Dwill but i dont really need him if someone wants him they could trade me a keeper for him.

Also a point per reception would be nice i really find those leagues are a lot more fun. Again personal opinion!

i would love to get this going soon so if you need help just hit me up!

[NCSUholmey]

from a quick check, we have 10 "yes I will come back"

The reason that I said keep 6 players, is that it will reward people that built a strong team from the 18 team league, because when I drafted for this league 3-4 years ago, I planned on being bad up front (hence the name, My Team Sucks) and I took alot of rookies and unknown players, but they have started to come around. I think 5 is fair though, and sounds good.

did we ever get a list of the people that owned each team?

[NCSUholmey]

1. Minneapolis Motorboats 3-10 - BACK - doc IN YAHOO GROUP
2. Hoof Arted 0-13
3. Jeff Fisher's Moustache 3-10
4. Keyes Redskins 6-7 - BACK - INVITE SENT
5. Carolina Spartans 6-7
6. Atlanta Penguin 6-7 - BACK - fsupenguin IN YAHOO GROUP
7. Velvet Jackhammers 7-6
8. Broomfield Farce 6-7 - BACK - BigRy IN YAHOO GROUP
9. Vegas Storm 7-6 - BACK - mtwasik IN YAHOO GROUP
10. Jacksonville Jorts 6-7 - LGF IN YAHOO GROUP
11. Philadelphia Chesesteaks 8-5 - BACK - footballkelly31 IN YAHOO GROUP
12. Utah ICE 7-6 - BACK - ICE IN YAHOO GROUP
13. My Team Sucks 9-4 - BACK - NCSUholmey IN YAHOO GROUP
14. Milf Seeker 10-3 - BACK - oldschoola IN YAHOO GROUP
15. Ohio Buckeyes 7-6 - BACK - preist19 IN YAHOO GROUP
16. Toronto Hitmen 8-5
17. Nasty Bunch 8-5
18 .HaHa MrAmazins 10-3 - BACK - SuddenBlues IN YAHOO GROUP

Fill-ins:
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1. Any expansion team automatically gets the first pick; if there are two expansion teams, a coin toss determines who picks first; the other team will pick first in the expansion draft.
2. The winners of the Super Bowl are given the last selection, and the losers the penultimate selection.
3. Teams that made the playoffs are then ordered by which round of the playoffs they are eliminated.
4. Teams that did not make the playoffs are ordered by their regular-season record.
5. Remaining ties are broken by strength of schedule. For draft order, a lower strength of schedule results in an earlier pick. If strength of schedule does not resolve a tie, division and/or conference tiebreakers may be used. If the tie still cannot be broken, a coin toss at the NFL Combine is used to determine draft order. (Note: Strength of schedule is the combined records of a team's 16 opponents, including games played against the team in question, and counting divisional opponents twice. Because of this, each team's opponents' combined wins and losses—counting a tie as a half-win, half-loss—will add up to 256, so a team whose opponents had more combined wins has a better strength of schedule.)

Since we really don't know strength of schedule... all ties will be broken by total points scored.
Final Standings:
1. HaHa MrAmazins
2. Nasty Bunch
3. Ohio Buckeyes
4. Toronto Hitmen
5. Milf Seeker
6. Philadelphia Chesesteaks
7. My Team Sucks
8. Utah ICE
9. Velvet Jackhammers
10. Vegas Storm
11. Jacksonville Jorts
12. Broomfield Farce
13. Carolina Spartans
14. Atlanta Penguin
15. Keyes Redskins
16. Jeff Fisher's Moustache
17. Minneapolis Motorboats
18. Hoof Arted

Draft Order: (based on rules above) By Round Eliminated in playoffs (by seed if eliminated in same round, and by points scored if same record and no playoffs)
1. Hoof Arted
2. Minneapolis Motorboats
3. Jeff Fisher's Moustache
4. Keyes Redskins
5. Atlanta Penguin
6. Carolina Spartans
7. Broomfield Farce
8. Jacksonville Jorts
9. Vegas Storm
10. Velvet Jackhammers
11. Utah ICE
12. My Team Sucks
13. Philadelphia Chesesteaks
14. Milf Seeker
15. Toronto Hitmen
16. Ohio Buckeyes
17. Nasty Bunch
18. HaHa MrAmazins

[NCSUholmey]

Final Rosters:

1. Minneapolis Motorboats 3-10 - BACK
Kyle Boller, Oak QB
Larry Johnson, Was RB
Ryan Moats, Min RB
Percy Harvin, Min WR
Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR
Josh Cribbs, Cle WR
DeSean Jackson, Phi WR
Alge Crumpler, NE TE
Raiders D/ST, Oak D/ST
Dan Carpenter, Mia K
Marc Bulger, Bal QB
LenDale White*, Den RB
Aaron Brown, Det RB
Tashard Choice, Dal RB
Chris Cooley, Was TE
Felix Jones, Dal RB
Julius Jones, Sea RB
Matt Spaeth, Pit TE
Jacoby Jones, Hou WR
Bobby Wade, Was WR
Dennis Dixon, Pit QB
Fred Taylor, NE RB

2. Hoof Arted 0-13
QB Kellen Clemens, NYJ QB
RB Sammy Morris, NE RB
RB Jerious Norwood, Atl RB
WR Deion Branch, Sea WR
WR Chris Chambers, KC WR
WR Lavelle Hawkins, Ten WR
WR/TE Greg Lewis, Min WR
TE Donald Lee, GB TE
D/ST Cardinals D/ST, Ari D/ST
K Shayne Graham, Cin K
Bench Chad Henne, Mia QB
Bench Justin McCareins, Ten WR
Bench Terrell Owens, Buf WR
Bench Michael Pittman, Den RB
Bench Josh Reed, Buf WR
Bench Ben Roethlisberger, Pit QB
Bench Tony Scheffler, Den TE
Bench Jacob Tamme, Ind TE
Bench Brian Westbrook, Phi RB
Bench Rian Lindell, Buf K
Bench Beanie Wells, Ari RB

3. Jeff Fisher's Moustache 3-10
QB Jason Campbell, Was QB
RB Laurence Maroney, NE RB
RB Rock Cartwright, Was RB
WR Jeremy Maclin, Phi WR
WR Santana Moss, Was WR
WR Brandon Gibson, StL WR
WR/TE Mario Manningham, NYG WR
TE Fred Davis, Was TE
D/ST Saints D/ST, NO D/ST
K Ryan Longwell, Min K
Bench David Anderson, Hou WR
Bench Martellus Bennett, Dal TE
Bench Juaquin Iglesias, Chi WR
Bench Owen Daniels, Hou TE
Bench Bubba Franks, NYJ TE
Bench Mike Furrey, Cle WR
Bench Clinton Portis, Was RB
Bench Matt Ryan, Atl QB
Bench Jason Hanson, Det K
Bench Texans D/ST, Hou D/ST
Bench Leonard Weaver, Phi RB
IR Ladell Betts, Was RB

4. Keyes Redskins 6-7 - BACK
Philip Rivers, SD QB
Donald Brown, Ind RB
Derrick Ward, TB RB
Anquan Boldin, Bal WR
Vincent Jackson*, SD WR
Roddy White, Atl WR
Lance Moore, NO WR
Visanthe Shiancoe, Min TE
Jaguars D/ST, Jac D/ST
Robbie Gould, Chi K
Correll Buckhalter, Den RB
Anthony Gonzalez, Ind WR
BenJarvus Green-Ellis, NE RB
Edgerrin James, FA RB
Rudi Johnson, FA RB
Derrick Mason, Bal WR
Le'Ron McClain, Bal RB
Billy Miller, FA TE
Shawn Nelson*, Buf TE O
Roscoe Parrish, Buf WR
Mike Sellers, Was RB

5. Carolina Spartans 6-7
QB Kurt Warner, Ari QB
RB Jamal Lewis, Cle RB
RB Michael Turner, Atl RB
WR Davone Bess, Mia WR
WR Michael Jenkins, Atl WR
WR Sidney Rice, Min WR
WR/TE Muhsin Muhammad, Car WR
TE Antonio Gates, SD TE
D/ST Ravens D/ST, Bal D/ST
K Josh Scobee, Jac K
Bench Browns D/ST, Cle D/ST
Bench Will Franklin, Oak WR
Bench Brian Leonard, Cin RB
Bench Ryne Robinson, Car WR
Bench JaMarcus Russell, Oak QB
Bench Ryan Torain, Den RB
Bench Troy Williamson, Jac WR
Bench Garrett Wolfe, Chi RB
Bench Brandon Tate, NE WR
Bench Jared Cook, Ten TE
Bench Demetrius Byrd, SD WR

6. Atlanta Penguin 6-7 - BACK - fsupenguin
Matt Cassel, KC QB
Marion Barber, Dal RB
Cedric Benson, Cin RB
Laveranues Coles, Cin WR
Randy Moss, NE WR
Danny Amendola, StL WR
Steve Breaston, Ari WR
Kevin Boss, NYG TE
Buccaneers D/ST, TB D/ST
Neil Rackers, Ari K
Sinorice Moss, NYG WR
Kyle Orton, Den QB
Willie Parker, Pit RB
Matthew Stafford, Det QB
Chansi Stuckey, Cle WR
Cadillac Williams, TB RB
Lions D/ST, Det D/ST
Julian Edelman, NE WR
Sean Ryan, KC TE
Sam Aiken, NE WR
Ahman Green, GB RB
Devard Darling, KC WR

7. Velvet Jackhammers 7-6
QB Vince Young, Ten QB
RB Glen Coffee, SF RB
RB Knowshon Moreno, Den RB
WR Calvin Johnson, Det WR
WR Wes Welker, NE WR
WR Chaz Schilens, Oak WR
WR/TE Bryant Johnson, Det WR
TE Dallas Clark, Ind TE
D/ST Bears D/ST, Chi D/ST
K Matt Stover, Ind K
Bench Colts D/ST, Ind D/ST
Bench Josh Freeman, TB QB
Bench Jarett Dillard, Jac WR
Bench Thomas Jones, NYJ RB
Bench Steve Slaton, Hou RB
Bench Kevin Faulk, NE RB
Bench Ted Ginn Jr., Mia WR
Bench Bruce Gradkowski, Oak QB
Bench Keenan Burton, StL WR
Bench Kelley Washington, Bal WR
Bench Brandon Jackson, GB RB
IR Laurent Robinson, StL WR

8. Broomfield Farce 6-7 - BACK
Tony Romo, Dal QB KEPT
Tim Hightower, Ari RB
Jonathan Stewart, Car RB KEPT
Brandon Marshall, Den WR KEPT
Nate Washington, Ten WR
Josh Morgan, SF WR
Bernard Berrian, Min WR
Jason Witten, Dal TE
Packers D/ST, GB D/ST
Matt Prater, Den K
Reggie Brown, Phi WR
Kerry Collins, Ten QB
Justin Fargas, Oak RB
Peyton Hillis, Den RB
Jordy Nelson, GB WR
Shonn Greene, NYJ RB KEPT
Brian Robiskie, Cle WR
Bernard Scott, Cin RB
Jermichael Finley, GB TE KEPT
Michael Vick, Phi QB
Spencer Havner, GB TE, LB

9. Vegas Storm 7-6 - BACK
Aaron Rodgers, GB QB
Mike Bell, NO RB
Justin Forsett, Sea RB
James Jones, GB WR
Steve Smith, Car WR
Austin Collie, Ind WR
Brandon Pettigrew, Det TE
Marcedes Lewis, Jac TE
Bengals D/ST, Cin D/ST
Josh Brown, StL K
Antonio Bryant, TB WR
Jake Delhomme, Car QB
Early Doucet, Ari WR
Javon Walker, Oak WR
Darren McFadden, Oak RB
Eagles D/ST, Phi D/ST
Rob Bironas, Ten K
Andre Caldwell, Cin WR
Legedu Naanee, SD WR
LaMont Jordan, Den RB
Brooks Foster, StL WR P

10. Jacksonville Jorts 6-7
QB Donovan McNabb, Was QB P
RB Fred Jackson, Buf RB Q
RB Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac RB Q
WR Nate Burleson, Det WR
WR Louis Murphy, Oak WR
WR Devin Thomas, Was WR
WR/TE Andre Johnson, Hou WR
TE Anthony Fasano, Mia TE
D/ST Bills D/ST, Buf D/ST
K Nate Kaeding, SD K P
Bench Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak WR
Bench Mike Thomas, Jac WR
Bench Cowboys D/ST, Dal D/ST
Bench Braylon Edwards, NYJ WR
Bench Justin Gage, Ten WR P
Bench Derek Hagan, NYG WR
Bench Kevin Smith, Det RB P
Bench Jerramy Stevens, TB TE
Bench John Carney, FA K
Bench Byron Leftwich, Pit QB
Bench Randy McMichael, SD TE P

11. Philadelphia Chesesteaks 8-5 - BACK
QB Matt Hasselbeck, Sea QB
RB Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB P
RB Ricky Williams, Mia RB
WR Hines Ward, Pit WR
WR Michael Crabtree, SF WR
WR Johnny Knox, Chi WR
WR/TE Dennis Northcutt, Det WR
TE Tony Gonzalez, Atl TE
D/ST Steelers D/ST, Pit D/ST
K
Bench Derek Anderson, Ari QB
Bench Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG RB
Bench Jerome Harrison, Cle RB
Bench Brandon Jones, Sea WR
Bench Darren Sproles, SD RB
Bench Brandon Stokley, Den WR Q
Bench Patrick Turner, Mia WR
Bench Mike Goodson, Car RB
Bench Falcons D/ST, Atl D/ST
Bench Kevin Kolb, Phi QB
Bench Kellen Davis, Chi TE
Bench Jay Feely, Ari K
IR David Martin, Mia TE

12. Utah ICE 7-6 - BACK
QB Matt Schaub, Hou QB
RB Matt Forte, Chi RB
RB Rashard Mendenhall, Pit RB
WR Santonio Holmes*, NYJ WR O
WR Greg Jennings, GB WR P
WR Chad Ochocinco, Cin WR
WR/TE Zach Miller, Oak TE
TE Dustin Keller, NYJ TE
D/ST 49ers D/ST, SF D/ST
K Stephen Gostkowski, NE K
Bench Dwayne Bowe, KC WR
Bench Mark Bradley, NO WR
Bench Trent Edwards, Buf QB
Bench Lee Evans, Buf WR
Bench Joe Flacco, Bal QB
Bench Jay Cutler, Chi QB
Bench Chase Coffman, Cin TE
Bench Rashad Jennings, Jac RB
Bench Chiefs D/ST, KC D/ST
Bench Chris Jennings, Cle RB
Bench Ryan Succop, KC K
IR Domenik Hixon*, NYG WR IR

13. My Team Sucks 9-4 - BACK
QB Drew Brees, NO QB KEPT
RB Jamaal Charles, KC RB KEPT
RB Steven Jackson, StL RB P KEPT
WR Jerricho Cotchery, NYJ WR
WR Roy E. Williams, Dal WR
WR Mike Sims-Walker, Jac WR KEPT
WR/TE Heath Miller, Pit TE
TE Greg Olsen, Chi TE
D/ST Chargers D/ST, SD D/ST
K Lawrence Tynes, NYG K
Bench Patrick Crayton, Dal WR
Bench Malcom Floyd, SD WR KEPT
Bench Earnest Graham, TB RB
Bench Shaun McDonald, FA WR
Bench Pat White, Mia QB
Bench Brady Quinn, Den QB
Bench Dante Rosario, Car TE
Bench Kolby Smith, Jac RB
Bench Chester Taylor, Chi RB
Bench Pierre Garcon, Ind WR KEPT
Bench Quinton Ganther, Sea RB
IR Leon Washington, Sea RB P

14. Milf Seeker 10-3
QB Alex Smith, SF QB
RB Joseph Addai, Ind RB P
RB Chris Brown, FA RB
WR Kevin Walter, Hou WR
WR Mohamed Massaquoi, Cle WR P
WR Reggie Wayne, Ind WR
WR/TE Ernest Wilford, Jac TE
TE David Thomas, NO TE
D/ST Jets D/ST, NYJ D/ST
K Joe Nedney, SF K P
Bench Kevin Curtis, FA WR
Bench Patriots D/ST, NE D/ST
Bench David Garrard, Jac QB
Bench Daniel Graham, Den TE Q
Bench Eli Manning, NYG QB P
Bench Jeremy Shockey, NO TE
Bench LeSean McCoy, Phi RB
Bench Mike Wallace, Pit WR
Bench Eddie Royal, Den WR
Bench Olindo Mare, Sea K P
Bench Maurice Stovall, TB WR P

16. Toronto Hitmen 8-5
QB Brett Favre, Min QB
RB Frank Gore, SF RB
RB Chris Johnson, Ten RB
WR Adrian Arrington, NO WR P
WR Jason Avant, Phi WR
WR Michael Clayton, TB WR
WR/TE Ronald Curry, FA WR
D/ST Broncos D/ST, Den D/ST
K David Akers, Phi K P
Bench Panthers D/ST, Car D/ST
Bench Joey Galloway, Was WR
Bench Chris Henry, Cin WR
Bench T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Sea WR P
Bench Antonio Pittman, FA RB
Bench Antwaan Randle El, Pit WR
Bench Ben Utecht, FA TE
Bench Mark Sanchez, NYJ QB
Bench Derrick Williams, Det WR
Bench Javon Ringer, Ten RB
Bench Tom Brandstater, Ind QB

17. Nasty Bunch 8-5
QB Peyton Manning, Ind QB
RB Pierre Thomas, NO RB
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ RB
WR Earl Bennett, Chi WR Q
WR Marques Colston, NO WR
WR Brian Hartline, Mia WR P
WR/TE Todd Heap, Bal TE
TE John Carlson, Sea TE
D/ST Dolphins D/ST, Mia D/ST
K Jeff Reed, Pit K
Bench Arnaz Battle, Pit WR
Bench Redskins D/ST, Was D/ST
Bench Devin Hester, Chi WR
Bench Isaac Bruce, SF WR
Bench James Hardy, Buf WR P
Bench Tarvaris Jackson, Min QB
Bench Marshawn Lynch, Buf RB P
Bench Benjamin Watson, Cle TE
Bench Sammie Stroughter, TB WR
Bench Sebastian Janikowski, Oak K
Bench Jason Snelling, Atl RB

18 .HaHa MrAmazins 10-3 - BACK
QB Carson Palmer, Cin QB
RB Adrian Peterson, Min RB
RB Ray Rice, Bal RB
WR Miles Austin, Dal WR
WR Steve Smith, NYG WR P
WR Robert Meachem, NO WR P
WR/TE Kenny Britt, Ten WR
TE Brent Celek, Phi TE
D/ST Vikings D/ST, Min D/ST
K Mason Crosby, GB K
Bench Michael Bush, Oak RB
Bench Mark Clayton, Bal WR P
Bench Titans D/ST, Ten D/ST
Bench Harry Douglas, Atl WR P
Bench Torry Holt*, NE WR O
Bench Willis McGahee, Bal RB
Bench Bo Scaife, Ten TE
Bench DeAngelo Williams, Car RB
Bench Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buf QB
Bench Garrett Hartley, NO K
Bench Matt Moore, Car QB

[NCSUholmey]

PM to all coaches that said they wanted back in. I will get with the waitlist guys to see if they are still interested, then they will get a chance to pick up one of the open teams.

We are going with 12 teams, top 8 make the playoffs.

[oldschoola]

i didnt get a pm homey

[NCSUholmey]

Waiting on the following teams:

Keyes Redskins
Philadelphia Chesesteaks
Ohio Buckeyes

Once those are in, that will put us at 10. I set the league max to 12 teams, so we will probably have 2 new guys take over teams, or if not enough interest, just keep at 10

[NCSUholmey]

For the people in the league, how should we move forward after this season? As far as draft strategy, know if its a 5 guy keeper or back to dynasty will alter some draft picks.

If anyone else is in any keeper / dynasty leagues, and like the way the keeper rule is set, post here and we can figure out as a group how to move forward

[Mtwasik]

Keeping five seems like a good idea.

[NCSUholmey]

should keepers just stay as the last picks by a team, or should they be ranked and take a pick in a certain round of the draft.

Just trying to figure out if there is a way to keep all the teams even and keep people from dropping out mid-season.

A league that I have been in for a couple years that is a keeper league, we keep up to 3 people but we get to pick them based on the previous years draft spot (3 years ago DeAngelo Williams was a 11th round pick, so last year I got him 2 rounds earlier, and this year 2 earlier so I get him as a 7th round pick.)

I agree that keeping 5 people as your last 5 picks will reward good drafters and waiver pick-ups, but may cause ghost teams with nobody controlling them as the season goes along with all of the top talent kept every year. As an example, guys that would be fourth round draft picks in standard leagues might go first round here because of all the kept talent

[fsupenguin]

I am kinda lost here, are we keeping our teams or are we not keeping our teams?

[NCSUholmey]

I am kinda lost here, are we keeping our teams or are we not keeping our teams?

right now we are doing a 5 person keeper, then re-drafting the remaining players from the teams that were taken out and rookies. My question is how do we move forward to keep everyone interested through the entire season. Last thing we need is for half the league to leave halfway into the season because they notice that we have 3 teams that are much better than the other 9. Just trying to find a way to keep the league competitive for all the members but reward people that are good drafters and play the waiver wire well.

If the league majority says keep as a full roster dynasty, then we can do that, or if the majority wants a fresh start, I am fine with anything. Just trying to get everyone involved, because the guys that are back are the ones that did set rosters weekly and stayed on top of their teams.

As an example, your roster you have Randy Moss as one of your elite guys, and then Barber and Benson that are decent but not top 20 players in 2010 standard drafts. My team has Drew Brees and Steven Jackson, both listed as Top 15. Some have 3 or 4 Top 15 players. By having a draft, the top teams are just going to get stronger, and I dont want that to drive away people from trying in the late weeks of the season

[Ry]

how about something like this: a big part of this league was the rookie draft. Maybe allow for only 3 year players or less to be kept. IDK, just throwing out ideas. Id feel better about keeping a few of the guys I drafted or picked off the waiver wire then a vet who I can replace from a large pool of veteran talent.

[doc]

im for keeping 3-5 players then having a draft of rookies and left overs. This way we keep the balance and can continue the dynasty. Plus its faster with the season just 10 days away

[fsupenguin]

I am fine with whatever, just tell me what we are doing.