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Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:26 pm
by shel311
Wasted Memory wrote:
Cnasty wrote:IF PASSED THIS WILL BEGIN NEXT SEASON....SO CHANGE OR KEEP YOUR VOTE ACCORDINGLY :)
Define "IF PASSED" :)
This is another thing.

I think it would be nice to know if it's 51% or whatever before we vote on something going forward.

Not a fan of getting over 50% then hearing something won't be passed for not getting enough votes. :lol:

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:30 pm
by Wasted Memory
Technically it didn't pass anyway. The final vote ended up being 10 Yes, 12 No after Corey called it. But I wanted to get my joke in before someone else did! ;)

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:32 pm
by shel311
It was a joke that also had merit.

Well played

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:40 pm
by DRWebs
shel311 wrote:
DRWebs wrote:Yes, use the current real world CBA
Wanting real world CBA would equate to a No vote, correct?
Meant as get rid of current system which awards a first round pick. I read the following from the manual and assumed it was implemented in full but apparently not.
Major League Baseball and the MLBPA reached a new Collective Bargaining Agreement in November 2016, covering the years 2017-2021. We've attempted to implement as many of the game-relevant changes as possible in OOTP
So, yes eliminate comp picks until the proper CBA changes can be set.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:58 pm
by Cnasty
Wasted Memory wrote:Technically it didn't pass anyway. The final vote ended up being 10 Yes, 12 No after Corey called it. But I wanted to get my joke in before someone else did! ;)
Yup this is also true.

But point taken. I will need to update the original poll and also any subsequent polls created to determine how I feel if it’s majority or simply more votes wins.

This is a more votes wins.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:08 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote:as a founding father, i want a rule added to all votes, including this, going forward. a non vote is a "no" until they've voted. so its 18-12 NO. suckers
You still standing by this Nick?

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:16 pm
by shel311
I'm also wondering if this is even an issue or will help at all.

If I'm not mistaken, we've had maybe 3-4 comp players total not be signed before the draft, right?

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:21 pm
by qazhby
I feel like good players being left in FA really isn't as bad as it use to be. Just looking at the free agency class and the only guy that is good and didn't play in 2050 is Morgan Moore and that's because he's a team cancer.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:23 pm
by Wasted Memory
I don't think so. Maybe 3-4 per season.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:27 pm
by shel311
Wasted Memory wrote:I don't think so. Maybe 3-4 per season.
2 years ago, I'm 100% certain we had only 1, I tracked it.

Last year, I'm not as certain but I kinda recall it being 3 or so guys.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:28 pm
by Cnasty
In doing a lot more dropping in and random question asking, a huge majority of leagues do not have comp picks.

Figured a good time to bring it to our table considering our complaints about depth, FA pool usually being very good, and guys sitting on cash winning 50 games.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:48 pm
by nick
GeorgesGoons wrote:
nick wrote:as a founding father, i want a rule added to all votes, including this, going forward. a non vote is a "no" until they've voted. so its 18-12 NO. suckers
You still standing by this Nick?
i will have to. man of my word. sucks cause im on the Yes side

id also say it should be 60+% or 66%+ (2/3rd of league) for it to be approved imo.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:51 pm
by nick
also we know about 21-23 ppl will vote which is fine. take that into account with nos. if mia's like Bernie dont show i dont think they should count as a no.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:53 pm
by Cnasty
nick wrote:
GeorgesGoons wrote:
nick wrote:as a founding father, i want a rule added to all votes, including this, going forward. a non vote is a "no" until they've voted. so its 18-12 NO. suckers
You still standing by this Nick?
i will have to. man of my word. sucks cause im on the Yes side

id also say it should be 60+% or 66%+ (2/3rd of league) for it to be approved imo.
Seems we may need to make a consistent measure of what an approval looks like as we all aren’t on the same page including myself when it comes to this.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:00 pm
by nick
i dont think it should be 51, but i also dont think it should be 75. 66 is 2/3 (20/30). easy # to monitor. 20+ yes is a winrar.

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:04 pm
by shel311
Don't care either way, but if we're making a change to 2/3, it should be 2/3, not 20+

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:14 pm
by nick
well i also said every non vote is a no in my grandfathered rule that george brought up. so it would have to be 20/10 cause thats 30.

obv were not going by that rule (cause my side won - ha ha ha ha) so it can be 2/3

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:33 pm
by wdoupis
I mean Hank lost a comp pick to sign totally washed up Yuri Sanchez so guys will sign em #Greeksownthewest

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:33 pm
by wdoupis
And that was just a shot at a division foe, I voted yes

Re: Get Rid of Comp Picks

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:40 pm
by doc
shel311 wrote:I voted against this.

I'd rather change the Injury settings to be realistic to force teams to add depth. It would arguably also force owners to sign more of these comp eligible picks to clean up this issue as well.
+1

Couldn't agree more