shel311 wrote:You completely missing the point of that post and completely whiffing on everything else anyone from NDL posts and your conspiracy theories that you and maybe 1 or 2 other guys believe in, THAT'S hilarious.
I'm shocked you didn't call me a name in that post.
Why are you shocked?
Are you trying to say you're more intelligent than I am and you can hold a conversation without name calling and I can't???
Honestly, why are you shocked??
Another question, why did you accuse me of calling you names when I didn't???
shel311 wrote:2. I vote that ALL conference commishes get ZERO poitns next season so you and others can shut your whiny bitchy asses up. Hell, you can have my 3 points, maybe that'll help you stop bitching so much about shit.
i don't understand why this is such a heated discussion.
the conference commisioners get 3 points to ensure this league still runs. this isn't difficult people. without the conf commishes this league goes down the shit because it would be too much work for one person.
everyone here thinks they're an angel when it comes to gameplay, well new flash boys, everyone runs with a little cheese in their play. accept it. we all do, no ones perfect. well when they make a complaint, someone has to get an ear full for your bitching. and that's the commishes.
the simple fact they help the league stay afloat, while all you nitpicking annoying fucks take advantage of it, is breathtaking. I mean, lets be honest here, we're all like 20+ and complaining about a video game. I dare you to go to any convention and have this argument in public and not be the laughing stock afterwards.
everyone has this opinion and they all think they're right, but i dont see any of you running successful leagues or writing articles (uuaww excluded), so if you wanna earn some points do some motherfucking work!
shit, starting next year i'm gonna go outta my way and do as much as i can for this league. maybe instead of all bitching like little babies you fucks can all do the same.
VeniVediV1ci wrote:I don't even know if arguing is going to make sense because all you're going to do is just tell me to stop whining or call me a name because you have no logical response to anything, or at least you're holding back for some reason I can't understand.
PLEASE show me where I called you a name??
Why are you assuming i'm gonna call you a name when I never did?
shel311 wrote:2. I vote that ALL conference commishes get ZERO poitns next season so you and others can shut your whiny bitchy asses up. Hell, you can have my 3 points, maybe that'll help you stop bitching so much about shit.
Is that good enough? Or do you want two?
I want you to have all 3 points.
But only if you explain why you think you can hold a conversation without name calling and I can't and why you're so shocked that I didn't call you a name.
shel311 wrote:2. I vote that ALL conference commishes get ZERO poitns next season so you and others can shut your whiny bitchy asses up. Hell, you can have my 3 points, maybe that'll help you stop bitching so much about shit.
Is that good enough? Or do you want two?
I want you to have all 3 points.
But only if you explain why you think you can hold a conversation without name calling and I can't and why you're so shocked that I didn't call you a name.
Or you can continue to avoid the question.
in that post you called me and others whiny bitchy asses. I don't know how to go about answering it otherwise.
shel311 wrote:2. I vote that ALL conference commishes get ZERO poitns next season so you and others can shut your whiny bitchy asses up. Hell, you can have my 3 points, maybe that'll help you stop bitching so much about shit.
Is that good enough? Or do you want two?
I want you to have all 3 points.
But only if you explain why you think you can hold a conversation without name calling and I can't and why you're so shocked that I didn't call you a name.
Or you can continue to avoid the question.
in that post you called me and others whiny bitchy asses. I don't know how to go about answering it otherwise.
Your points have all been heard and all of them are appreciated.
It may not seem like it but we really do from year to year (and on a smaller basis season to season) weight just about everything imaginable to KEEP the league great or modify it to MAKE it BETTER.
The bottom line is we have 120 guys. We will NEVER EVER EVER have 120 "happy" guys. Everyone is different. Everyone has different views on what is "fair".
What the NDL is, and what it has evolved to become at least everyone can agree....is the best online league out there.
The reason(s) for this is the initial setup, format and leadership and the 2nd part which has guided us though the move to Next Gen and beyond is the ability to modify and capture the idealism of MOST of the league.
Again, not everyone will ever be happy with any particular setup. This is the best that a group of guys that really have the NDL's future and best interest at hearts have come up with based on letting threads go way past their prime (like this one), and hearing all the different points of view.
Again, thank you to EVERYONE. We have read and will re-read all the post and take consideration in what everyone has said in keeping or changing formats.
One last thing. I've said this before but Mike, myself and AJ let these threads go for a reason. Jeff woulda squashed this back on page 1 and the overall "mood" of the league would probably feel better...BUT its liek being angry at a spouse and not telling them and letting it fester til it blows up to something irrecoverable.
We feel that by letting everyone get their issues off their chest it will them, help us who run the league and help the league as a whole.
So let no one take away that this thread was "bad" or that "the bitching is too much"
It is what it is and again, everyone is appreciated.