I'm Done

[cdub21]

Or i would play Sabotage, where I can get 70+ kills with no problem. The problem with that game mode: Its waaaaayyyyyy to fuckin long. Even when i plant the fuckin bomb my team is too dumb to protect the damn thing.

I love it! I love the ebb and flow of the battlefield. It is time well spent for me. I also love my game-ending stat line if it goes the full 21:30. It is always something like 38-11-32. I feel like Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell.

shit thats it? we went the whole time and everyone was 45+ kills 45+ deaths. a good sabotage game is a great way to rack up your gun challenges

[BFiVL]

"I hope all you crackers get rabies and die"
"I Have Lebron James's Phone number"
"Shit, that makes me want to play better"

All things we would not hear if we played other games.

[trendon]

Trendon, is your name patches cause you got the 5 D's down pat. How do you suggest domination is played?

Trendon, we get it and we are fucking with you. None of the things we say are with arrogance or a sense of better than thou. Its more of we know you are full of shit and we are going to yank the shit out of your chain because you are really clueless.

I am clueless? You are the fucking one that can't read. I have, on no less than ten occasions, told you that the way you play Domination is strategically the perfect way. Not that it is complicated math, but who was the first to figure out - way back during the CoD4 - the math of Domination? Me. I figured it out when we all played together and played under the same strategy, the correct one. In fact, because we played that strategy, I had plenty of time to watch the scoreboard! lol

That isn't my point. I know guys like Mike and Hoos play solely because it provides them easy kills. They have admitted it; Hoos in writing. That's all I want to hear from you and AJ. "Trendon, I play Domination because it is the easiest mode to manipulate what with the fixed targets and I like to know that, because of the work of the team, I will spend 80% of my match in 20% of the map with constant eyes on target as they barrel towards me."

Just repeat that and I will stop accusing you of being fraudulent.

Queue "I don't care what you think" response.

Expanding on this post, Hoos is sort of right, yet again. This all initially started when I had to start refusing invites from you guys because I got tired of Domination. The routine would always be the same: Hoos would elevate himself, Mike & Dan would be the only players where if you multiplied their kills by the points per kill would be exactly his score, Beefy would camp B - errrrr defend, yeah defend, that's right - and I would get yelled at for going to get the third flag.

Every match. I'd then end up with a win a 3:1 kill ratio and bored out of my mind. I put two and two together and figured out you guys don't like challenges and would rather take the easy way out.

[BFiVL]

You are clueless because you post stats that dont matter and you think that it somehow proves a point . We are also fucking with you and you continue to bite everytime. The only way you can have stats that truly could prove your point is simple, when you figure it out, let me know or you can ask for help.

[Hoos]

I actually believe the average kill ratio has gone down because of the awareness of getting out of the way of the Chopper Gunner.

I was the other night. I spawn camped my way to the chopper gunner. So, I'm looking for targets and this guy on the other team has cold blooded on but is standing there firing his gun at me. Really?

I went on to kill him and then nuke him just for being so fucking dumb.

[trendon]

You are clueless because you post stats that dont matter and you think that it somehow proves a point . We are also fucking with you and you continue to bite everytime. The only way you can have stats that truly could prove your point is simple, when you figure it out, let me know or you can ask for help.

So, I do research and I am clueless and get mocked. You do nothing but play the same mode with no research and somehow you are enlightened. I get it now.

It's like when a police force investigates its own. A sham. And you are not baiting me; you are ignoring the proof. Explain why Hoos, a charter member, writes tutorials that specifically instruct people to camp. Does he not know what he is talking about?

[BFiVL]

You are clueless because you post stats that dont matter and you think that it somehow proves a point . We are also fucking with you and you continue to bite everytime. The only way you can have stats that truly could prove your point is simple, when you figure it out, let me know or you can ask for help.

So, I do research and I am clueless and get mocked. You do nothing but play the same mode with no research and somehow you are enlightened. I get it now.

It's like when a police force investigates its own. A sham. And you are not baiting me; you are ignoring the proof. Explain why Hoos, a charter member, writes tutorials that specifically instruct people to camp. Does he not know what he is talking about?

If you have to ask this, then you can not be saved.

You did FLAWED research that proves noting other than you think it proves something. I am not saying I am smarter than you, I am just saying you wasted time doing research that really doesnt prove what you intended for it to prove. Ask for help, Ill be more than happy to help you prove us wrong, but I will say it is damn near impossible to do.

[trendon]

You are clueless because you post stats that dont matter and you think that it somehow proves a point . We are also fucking with you and you continue to bite everytime. The only way you can have stats that truly could prove your point is simple, when you figure it out, let me know or you can ask for help.

So, I do research and I am clueless and get mocked. You do nothing but play the same mode with no research and somehow you are enlightened. I get it now.

It's like when a police force investigates its own. A sham. And you are not baiting me; you are ignoring the proof. Explain why Hoos, a charter member, writes tutorials that specifically instruct people to camp. Does he not know what he is talking about?

If you have to ask this, then you can not be saved.

You did FLAWED research that proves noting other than you think it proves something. I am not saying I am smarter than you, I am just saying you wasted time doing research that really doesnt prove what you intended for it to prove. Ask for help, Ill be more than happy to help you prove us wrong, but I will say it is damn near impossible to do.

No, what I have is data from research. The research was just general housekeeping. And, quite honestly, I don't even think you know what I am saying. Hoos gets it. Doesn't say much for you.

[BFiVL]

You are clueless because you post stats that dont matter and you think that it somehow proves a point . We are also fucking with you and you continue to bite everytime. The only way you can have stats that truly could prove your point is simple, when you figure it out, let me know or you can ask for help.

So, I do research and I am clueless and get mocked. You do nothing but play the same mode with no research and somehow you are enlightened. I get it now.

It's like when a police force investigates its own. A sham. And you are not baiting me; you are ignoring the proof. Explain why Hoos, a charter member, writes tutorials that specifically instruct people to camp. Does he not know what he is talking about?

If you have to ask this, then you can not be saved.

You did FLAWED research that proves noting other than you think it proves something. I am not saying I am smarter than you, I am just saying you wasted time doing research that really doesnt prove what you intended for it to prove. Ask for help, Ill be more than happy to help you prove us wrong, but I will say it is damn near impossible to do.

No, what I have is data from research. The research was just general housekeeping. And, quite honestly, I don't even think you know what I am saying. Hoos gets it. Doesn't say much for you.

Trendon, Let me type slower, your K/D research and stats are flawed. You following me when I say all of that research you did proves nothing because it is flawed? That "Data" is fact, but it is worthless.

[trendon]

Your reading comprehension sucks. It really does, Biffie. I hope your fucking with me doesn't extend this far because it is embarrassing.

That is just data
Data I accumulated with a goal of finding out some basic facts about the game.
Its original goal had nothing to do with you or Domination.
It was too see what scores the most points.

Considering you can't even answer me on why a charter member instructs people to spawn camp shows all I need to know, though. I don't need to run data. I am prosecuting you for fraud and I have a star witness corroborating my claim. Mike just pleads the fifth, which doesn't look good in front of a jury.

You could theoretically say that my data's application is flawed but you'd need to know what the hell I am getting at in the first place to even make that claim. You don't. It's rather unbecoming of an adult.

[BFiVL]

Your reading comprehension sucks. It really does, Biffie. I hope your fucking with me doesn't extend this far because it is embarrassing.

That is just data
Data I accumulated with a goal of finding out some basic facts about the game.
Its original goal had nothing to do with you or Domination.
It was too see what scores the most points.

Considering you can't even answer me on why a charter member instructs people to spawn camp shows all I need to know, though. I don't need to run data. I am prosecuting you for fraud and I have a star witness corroborating my claim. Mike just pleads the fifth, which doesn't look good in front of a jury.

You could theoretically say that my data's application is flawed but you'd need to know what the hell I am getting at in the first place to even make that claim. You don't. It's rather unbecoming of an adult.

Trendon, bless your heart, really. You realize this data that you collected is FLAWED, I really cant help you if you dont see that. I am going to be nice and tell you what I mean by your data means exactly dick.

Now, you have jumped more times than a frog on your data, one minute its point totals and the next its K/D so I will show you exactly what you said earlier cause you seem to forget what the hell your data is about.
"All that aside, I still maintain Domination is a camp fest and an easy way to get kills. There is no other way to explain how I perform a little bit under 20% better in that mode than I do in any other mode."

Now the data you posted earlier in this thread had nothing to do with points it had K/D ratios which is only one component to do with total points, so even if you are going back to total points argument, only TDM or SnD does that K/D stuff matter regarding total points. Also, the data is flawed because you do not have any contols. You played multiple games, on multiple maps, vs multiple people of multiple skill levels, with multiple teammates. Now, the only thing constant is you ( i contend that its a team game and you are only as good as your team). To get a true data sample to prove anything you want, you will have to play the different modes, with the same teammates, against the same group of people, on the same maps for each mode. Now, Argue how I am wrong in my thinking.

[trendon]

Now the data you posted earlier in this thread had nothing to do with points it had K/D ratios which is only one component to do with total points, so even if you are going back to total points argument, only TDM or SnD does that K/D stuff matter regarding total points. Also, the data is flawed because you do not have any contols. You played multiple games, on multiple maps, vs multiple people of multiple skill levels, with multiple teammates. Now, the only thing constant is you ( i contend that its a team game and you are only as good as your team). To get a true data sample to prove anything you want, you will have to play the different modes, with the same teammates, against the same group of people, on the same maps for each mode. Now, Argue how I am wrong in my thinking.

OK, so you aren't stupid. I am relieved because I thought you became a moron in the past 72 hours or something.

This point is sort of correct, depending on where you come from. For one, 175 matches might not be a proper sample size; for instance, in my stats, I played Capture the Flag at Karachi only once. Once again, though, the initial goal of this was just to see which mode awarded me the highest average XP and bonus. Totaling up the K/D was just because it was easy to track along with it. It was an ancillary part of the research.

However, if I want to ask the question, "Is Domination easier to succeed on?" then it might not be all that small of a sample size. I played 33 Domination matches (the largest quantity) in this time (all with random people, none of these stats come from group play) and I put up a kill ratio .176 higher than the next highest mode and .272 higher than the average. Because the variables remained the same for me, this is solid study since the study was me; that was the target.

So, we have proof that I play better on Domination than any other game mode across all maps and across all teammates using the same strategy that 3Dog uses (and, quite honestly, everyone uses but I see you fail to see that). Is it too unreasonable to suggest that I do not live in a special void where only my stats went up 10-20%?

[cdub21]

anyone wanna play mosh pit with me tonight?

[BFiVL]

Now the data you posted earlier in this thread had nothing to do with points it had K/D ratios which is only one component to do with total points, so even if you are going back to total points argument, only TDM or SnD does that K/D stuff matter regarding total points. Also, the data is flawed because you do not have any contols. You played multiple games, on multiple maps, vs multiple people of multiple skill levels, with multiple teammates. Now, the only thing constant is you ( i contend that its a team game and you are only as good as your team). To get a true data sample to prove anything you want, you will have to play the different modes, with the same teammates, against the same group of people, on the same maps for each mode. Now, Argue how I am wrong in my thinking.

OK, so you aren't stupid. I am relieved because I thought you became a moron in the past 72 hours or something.

This point is sort of correct, depending on where you come from. For one, 175 matches might not be a proper sample size; for instance, in my stats, I played Capture the Flag at Karachi only once. Once again, though, the initial goal of this was just to see which mode awarded me the highest average XP and bonus. Totaling up the K/D was just because it was easy to track along with it. It was an ancillary part of the research.

However, if I want to ask the question, "Is Domination easier to succeed on?" then it might not be all that small of a sample size. I played 33 Domination matches (the largest quantity) in this time (all with random people, none of these stats come from group play) and I put up a kill ratio .176 higher than the next highest mode and .272 higher than the average. Because the variables remained the same for me, this is solid study since the study was me; that was the target.

So, we have proof that I play better on Domination than any other game mode across all maps and across all teammates using the same strategy that 3Dog uses (and, quite honestly, everyone uses but I see you fail to see that). Is it too unreasonable to suggest that I do not live in a special void where only my stats went up 10-20%?

I wont say you are wrong in your thinking, but too me there is just too may variables for you to prove what you are saying. I mean, do you use the same gun with the same perks in all modes? I mean, I take a dip in my k/d when I prestige up because I dont have the guns I am comfortable using or the perks I like. I do disagree that everyone uses our strat. I am by no means a great player, but my win ratio is hovering around 5.0. It would be a lot higher without disconnects, getting put in a game that already is over, etc... I know this much, I am a good player playing with a certain group of guys playing any mode. We are best at domination but not for any of the reasons you feel. Domination is the most fun because of the lack of true camping by most people's definition and that we have guys that play the game that makes us the most successful.

[trendon]

I mean, do you use the same gun with the same perks in all mode

Yeah, that is fairly constant, too. M4A1/SCAR and the perks are quickly the same as soon as I get them. Marathon is always there. Danger Close and Ninja are the only two I need to wait for.

[trendon]

Domination is the most fun because of the lack of true camping by most people's definition

No, sir ... most people understand that you camp more on Domination. It is the whole point of the game!!!

[BFiVL]

I mean, do you use the same gun with the same perks in all mode

Yeah, that is fairly constant, too. M4A1/SCAR and the perks are quickly the same as soon as I get them. Marathon is always there. Danger Close and Ninja are the only two I need to wait for.

See I cant do that. All my classes are set up for domination with perk 3 rotating and perk 2 being stopping power or hardline. Perk 1 is always scav. If I played other modes, I would have to fiddle around till I found one that worked for each mode.

[BFiVL]

Domination is the most fun because of the lack of true camping by most people's definition

No, sir ... most people understand that you camp more on Domination. It is the whole point of the game!!!

[trendon]

I mean, do you use the same gun with the same perks in all mode

Yeah, that is fairly constant, too. M4A1/SCAR and the perks are quickly the same as soon as I get them. Marathon is always there. Danger Close and Ninja are the only two I need to wait for.

See I cant do that. All my classes are set up for domination with perk 3 rotating and perk 2 being stopping power or hardline. Perk 1 is always scav. If I played other modes, I would have to fiddle around till I found one that worked for each mode.

The only change I really make is for SnD ... I switch to a silencer.

[BIGmike]

I use two classes for all game modes.