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[Hoos]

Getting the itch to put out another 3DOG video. I really want to show the world how we spawn camp.

What night can we get the full A-Team on?

[trendon]

You have some balls. You fucking said you do it!

[BFiVL]

Ill be on tonight fo sho

[trendon]

Maybe I will play with you guys but only if Hoos is playing. I very much enjoy having him yell at me when I invariably go get the third flag.

[Hoos]

You have some balls. You fucking said you do it!

Did you put this to a vote?

[trendon]

No, I wasn't in charge of the Domination Proclamation you posted last year.

[Hoos]

Maybe I will play with you guys but only if Hoos is playing. I very much enjoy having him yell at me when I invariably go get the third flag.

I will not have you breaking strat on film.

[trendon]

Well, then, I will just hang out near the third one since, unlike you guys, I have no problem with camping and/or admitting it. I jut want points and I don't care how I get them

[ajalves]

ill be on for a little while

[Hoos]

Need to find out when Scrub and Dan will be on before I hook it all up.

[BFiVL]

Any word on if Bruce is playing Cause I aint playing with bruce.

[BIGmike]

I'll be around 10:30 tonight. I have all day off tomorrow.

[Hoos]

It will prob be tue night. Maybe some this weekend.

[BFiVL]

Trendon, round up a few guys. I wanna test some of your stats. Especially the first to B wins 75% of the time. I would say for 3dog, that # is too low if we get it first and way too high if we dont.

I also wanna see what your K/D would be with us and against us. Have a feeling it would be really high with and really low against.

Which proves my point that teamwork is the most important thing in domination.

[trendon]

Trendon, round up a few guys. I wanna test some of your stats. Especially the first to B wins 75% of the time. I would say for 3dog, that # is too low if we get it first and way too high if we dont.

I also wanna see what your K/D would be with us and against us. Have a feeling it would be really high with and really low against.

Which proves my point that teamwork is the most important thing in domination.

First of all, this post shows that you have consistently and repeatedly missed the point of what I am saying. If I play with you guys - and whenever I play Domination - I am going to do exactly what I "accuse" you guys of doing; spawn-camping and racking up four minutes of easy kills. That's not the point; I agree with the strategy just like everyone else who plays Domination does. It isn't nuclear fission; get two adjacent flags, turn on easy mode.

My contention is that you guys only play Domination because you know exactly how to flip easy mode on and, thus, don't want to venture outside of it for fear of ruining your K/D ratio, which you deny under the "we like it" logic. I'll respond with "you like it because it is easy" but we'll be here all day with that one. That has been my whole point from the start and somehow it morphed into a "I don't spawn camp/yes you do/I do it/everyone does it/so you do it" debate. Ultimately, I am accusing you guys of being East Room cheesers who run the CoD equivalent of the no-huddle, spread offense with lobs.

Also, no shit on the second part; I already did that. Someone in one of these threads you can see my stats in a handful of random games prior to me joining the group and then the numbers when I joined the group. It was like I was two different players.

And I did it doing exactly the way I say: I fought like hell to get B (if you see a smoke grenade, I am nearby) and then I just basically hovered around it like a shark, gleefully picking off the fools running right towards me. It is easy mode. I like it because the points (my main objective) go up, but I get bored real easily. I am a 1.17 player right now but, I'd say I've rounded into a 1.2-1.25 player. I'll put up 2.5:1 with you guys - even if I don't put on the headset - just like I put up gargantuan numbers when I stumble into a game with five clan members. And vice-versa; it is a struggle if I stumble into a game AGAINST a bunch of clan members.

[BFiVL]

Trendon, round up a few guys. I wanna test some of your stats. Especially the first to B wins 75% of the time. I would say for 3dog, that # is too low if we get it first and way too high if we dont.

I also wanna see what your K/D would be with us and against us. Have a feeling it would be really high with and really low against.

Which proves my point that teamwork is the most important thing in domination.

First of all, this post shows that you have consistently and repeatedly missed the point of what I am saying. If I play with you guys - and whenever I play Domination - I am going to do exactly what I "accuse" you guys of doing; spawn-camping and racking up four minutes of easy kills. That's not the point; I agree with the strategy just like everyone else who plays Domination does. It isn't nuclear fission; get two adjacent flags, turn on easy mode.

My contention is that you guys only play Domination because you know exactly how to flip easy mode on and, thus, don't want to venture outside of it for fear of ruining your K/D ratio, which you deny under the "we like it" logic. I'll respond with "you like it because it is easy" but we'll be here all day with that one. That has been my whole point from the start and somehow it morphed into a "I don't spawn camp/yes you do/I do it/everyone does it/so you do it" debate. Ultimately, I am accusing you guys of being East Room cheesers who run the CoD equivalent of the no-huddle, spread offense with lobs.

Also, no shit on the second part; I already did that. Someone in one of these threads you can see my stats in a handful of random games prior to me joining the group and then the numbers when I joined the group. It was like I was two different players.

And I did it doing exactly the way I say: I fought like hell to get B (if you see a smoke grenade, I am nearby) and then I just basically hovered around it like a shark, gleefully picking off the fools running right towards me. It is easy mode. I like it because the points (my main objective) go up, but I get bored real easily. I am a 1.17 player right now but, I'd say I've rounded into a 1.2-1.25 player. I'll put up 2.5:1 with you guys - even if I don't put on the headset - just like I put up gargantuan numbers when I stumble into a game with five clan members. And vice-versa; it is a struggle if I stumble into a game AGAINST a bunch of clan members.

Ill take that as a no
W/L>K/D.

K/D does not equal wins in domination. Actually the opposite is quite true. Folks that are not afraid to die multiple times throwing disregard to their k/d win the game. I bet people like hoos,dan,aj,me,and mike K/D would be a lot higher in TDM than in domination.

I also wanna see you pull a 2.5 k/d with us on domination. I also contend that I have yet to see teams do what we do and beat us. It doesnt happen. Clans, random, doesnt matter, guys do not go for B right off the bat, they always stop for A/C then try and get b from us. They never swarm to B, they go one at a time. It doesnt work.

[trendon]

Take what as a no? There wasn't even a fucking question! What the hell is going on in the south with their education?!

[Hoos]

Please tell me that we aren't going to have another 5 page debate between you two retards.

I'll admit to spawn camping if it will end this Domination debate.

[trendon]

K/D does not equal wins in domination. Actually the opposite is quite true. Folks that are not afraid to die multiple times throwing disregard to their k/d win the game. I bet people like hoos,dan,aj,me,and mike K/D would be a lot higher in TDM than in domination.

You are right; it doesn't. Once again, you keep missing the point and it is to the point now where I am going to ignore you because I don't think you have the ability to grasp my contention.

You, BFIVL, play Domination with the same people - with very little deviation - because you know that you will pile up tons of easy kills and a lot of easy wins. That's it. It's not a complicated point. Very simple. Like Kansas State; sure they were probably good, but they scheduled too many North Dakota States to be taken seriously. Everyone else understands what I am saying but you.

And no you wouldn't. The way you play Domination is the perfect way and sets you up perfectly for a ton of easy kills. When done right, Domination becomes automatic. Team Deathmatch is rarely the same game. One has fixed points of interest and one doesn't. You'd have good numbers, but not to the same level as Domination.

[trendon]

All Biffie has to do is admit that he likes playing Domination more than the other modes because he enjoys the easy kills and easy wins. He keeps getting close with the "teamwork" thing, and I agree. But, every time he gets close, he changes the angle and makes it sound like I am disagreeing with him ... which leads to discussions about spawn camping.

I just want to see the words, "Yes, I like Domination more than the other modes because it easier for us to play." I'll even accept an addition, "but I still think we will do extremely well at other modes."

That ends it and concludes my interest in the discussion.