Big 10 has supposedly made it's initial offers

[nick]

Damn.

I NEVER had any of that stuff until I got AIM and the only reason I did was because it was for my 1st ever online league, LOL.

But, again, I am from Louisiana, so that explains that.

that actually explains a lot

[TerpsMustDie]

The ACC would want USF over West Virginia so it could stay in the Florida TV markets, if it did lose FSU and Miami

You don't get TV markets without a fan base. I highly doubt what you're saying. In fact, you are the only person I have seen make this statement, and I've been following the story pretty closely for obvious reasons.

[TerpsMustDie]

As I said earlier, the entire thing is driven by money and the next TV deal. There is less money out there than before so everybody is scrambling to maximize their share. You maximize your share by expanding your TV footprint.

That is why Boston College was attractive. Despite having the worst fan base that I have ever seen, they bring the Boston market. So, the ACC TV deal will include Boston. Rutgers is the same story. Another somewhat blah athletic program that just happens to be sitting in fertile TV land.

Either you have to be in a TV market or you have to be a big draw that adds to the overall value of the TV package. Nebraska is not in a big TV market but their name strengthens the TV deal. However, I would bet the Big 10 went after Texas before they went after Nebraska.

So, all the academic talk and good fit talk is just a way of selling expansion. It's all about the next TV deal.

BC to the ACC has been less than ideal for both the schools and the conference. They would have been much better served with UConn or Syracuse.

[Mtwasik]

And ... don't be surprised if the very first expansion move made by anybody is by the MWC ... sometime in the next few weeks.

Remember ... you heard it on the NDL boards first The media finally has realized what's going on

http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_15207026

I fully expect the word to come out on Monday (June 7). And the best proof I can offer is that last week the MWC invited the Boise State media to next week's conference meetings ... why invite the BSU media unless its 100% sure there is something they will want to be there for?

[tball275]

And ... don't be surprised if the very first expansion move made by anybody is by the MWC ... sometime in the next few weeks.

Remember ... you heard it on the NDL boards first The media finally has realized what's going on

http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_15207026

I fully expect the word to come out on Monday (June 7). And the best proof I can offer is that last week the MWC invited the Boise State media to next week's conference meetings ... why invite the BSU media unless its 100% sure there is something they will want to be there for?

you have potential insider status when talking about the MWC...

[VeniVediV1ci]

um, definite insider status

...but he was right

[nick]

Boise, TCU, Utah and BYU....turning into a better conference than the Big East lol

[Mtwasik]

Most out there would say we already were a better conference then the Big East the past 2 years. With BSU, that gives the MWC two teams that finished in the top 10 last year, while Utah was 2nd the year before and both TCU and BSU were top 15.

[TerpsMustDie]

Most out there would say we already were a better conference then the Big East the past 2 years. With BSU, that gives the MWC two teams that finished in the top 10 last year, while Utah was 2nd the year before and both TCU and BSU were top 15.

The bottom of the conference is still much weaker than the Big East, and with the round ball there is no comparison. I think the Big East finished somewhere around 3rd or 4th in conference strength last year. What really hurts the conference is only having 8 teams in football. Regardless, I'd take the top 3 in the Big East against the top 3 in the MWC all day and twice on Sunday.

[LetsGoPeay]

Will this be enough to keep Utah, BYU, or TCU from bolting if the Pac-10 or Big 12 come calling though?

[Mtwasik]

Most out there would say we already were a better conference then the Big East the past 2 years. With BSU, that gives the MWC two teams that finished in the top 10 last year, while Utah was 2nd the year before and both TCU and BSU were top 15.

The bottom of the conference is still much weaker than the Big East, and with the round ball there is no comparison. I think the Big East finished somewhere around 3rd or 4th in conference strength last year. What really hurts the conference is only having 8 teams in football. Regardless, I'd take the top 3 in the Big East against the top 3 in the MWC all day and twice on Sunday.

Trust me, you are the ONLY one that would take the top 3 of the Big East against the top 3 of the new MWC. But, my comparision was only supposed to be for football, obviously the Big East is better in basketball. However, getting to the BCS level will only improve all MWC schools. Once we add BSU, we will be a BCS league starting in 2012, which means when one of our teams go, they get about 22 million that is shared among the conference members. When TCU and BSU both got invites this past year, they were only given about a total of 16 million combined, to be split up among the MWC and WAC conference members. It's all about the MWC doing what's needed to become the 7th BCS league, that's why we are adding BSU.

[trendon]

Osborne just said decisions or a clearer picture will be made by Friday.

[Mtwasik]

Will this be enough to keep Utah, BYU, or TCU from bolting if the Pac-10 or Big 12 come calling though?

BYU will not go anywhere, Pac-10 has no interest in taking the Mormon school, it doesn't fit in with the rest of their schools, plus they don't play any sports on Sundays. Big 12 doesn't want TCU, adding another Texas team won't do anything to improve the conference's reach.

Now, that said, if the Big 10 shakes up everything by adding 5 teams and everyone else tries to match them as a 16-team league? Who knows what will happen then, there are only about a hundred possibilities. But at the worst, I think we would only lose Utah if the Pac-10 expands, and its looking like they don't want to expand, they will instead announce some kind of TV network maybe as early as this weekend (rumor is a combined effort with the Big 12). We'll know alot more over the next few days.

Everything rides on what the Big 10 does, and they seem to be in no hurry to decide.

[nick]

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090747

Ok State, OU, Texas etc to the Pac 10?

[TerpsMustDie]

Trust me, you are the ONLY one that would take the top 3 of the Big East against the top 3 of the new MWC.

I highly doubt that.

[TerpsMustDie]

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090747

Ok State, OU, Texas etc to the Pac 10?

Pac-10 telling Delany to suck it! This expansion stuff is like a roller coaster...just enjoy the ride.

[Uuaww]

a Pac-16? jeez...

[Weasel]

Trust me, you are the ONLY one that would take the top 3 of the Big East against the top 3 of the new MWC.

I highly doubt that.

1. Jsence, Kentucky
2. Matt, Apple
3. Terps, WVU

[Cnasty]

Bingo

[TerpsMustDie]

Trust me, you are the ONLY one that would take the top 3 of the Big East against the top 3 of the new MWC.

I highly doubt that.

1. Jsence, Kentucky
2. Matt, Apple
3. Terps, WVU

I'm without a doubt a WVU fan and homer, but I just don't believe the MWC is as good as the Big East. It's not that far off, but it's not there. The teams benefit from playing a very weak schedule (I realize the same argument is made for the Big East schedule, but the numbers say otherwise). Running the tables in the WAC or MWC is easier than doing so in the Big East. That's hard to debate. Pitt, WVU, Cincy, USF, Rutgers, and UConn are better than Utah, TCU, and BYU. While those schools have had a good run, they don't have the same talent. I respect those teams, but they are not better than the top of the Big East.