Running the ball on heisman

[Nole4real]

Yes, Im aware that you're tired of me bringing it up

but as we start this last season i wanna point out that there were 5....FIVE....1,000 yard rushers last season

http://onlinedynasty.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=180

Im looking at teams and realizing I was 100% right when I said there are really about 5 hbs on the entire game who have a chance to get to 1000.

I dunno...maybe I just like offense more than defense and would rather move the ball too well than not well enough but just ask when 2010 drops and its time to vote again.

Not pointing any fingers but I know some of you are ENTRENCHED with the thought we should never play anything less than heisman.

just saying give it some more serious thought and gameplay next season.

just my opinion...i saw it coming and hate the lack of run game this season

[BIGmike]

Quit ya blood-clot cryin'!

[Ry]

IM all for it. If I can't run the ball...well, I basically am quite mediocre if i have to pass alot.

Here's to runnin the rock in '10!

[Cnasty]

What is this running the ball you speak of???

I do agree that it is a lot harder to run the ball than in previous versions but if you work at it, it is there.

I think guys have just realized passing is a lot easier in this version and have gone to more of a pass more game than we have seen in past versions.

BUT also keep in mind if we went AA on this game the passing numbers would be even more outrageous and the D even worse at times than it already is.

Either way, Im passing the ball because thats what is fun for me even if running the ball is a million times easier.

[DRiccio21]

i agree noley... i love running the ball but at times its just a pointless thing to do, i can only handle so many 31 carry 74 yard performances before i decide to chuck around the rock

[Nole4real]

but if you work at it, it is there.

HUGE disagree

If your have pitt, clemson, usc, uga wvu or bg vs mac teams...THEN its there

(MAYBE 3 other teams)

after that, its almost pointless as far as consistent enough for 1000

[DRWebs]

BUT also keep in mind if we went AA on this game the passing numbers would be even more outrageous and the D even worse at times than it already is

I don't think scoring is down at all so I'd say the offense is not that different than past years, just a different way to get those points.

[pounddarock]

Running the ball in this game takes patience and precision. Granted I didn't have a HB with over 1,000 yards with Navy, but I think I passed the ball on average 6 times per game and still managed to be competitive in most of my games, going 6-6 and a bowl game victory where I only threw twice.
I still play every now and then on AA if I'm bored and can handle a cheesy lobby player. I still run the ball and running the ball is the easiest thing in the world on that level: easy to get 8+ yards every run no matter what team you use, that is not realistic.
I enjoy the challenge of sticking to the run game even if you only gain 2 or 3 yards...breaking the big one is that much more rewarding.
I think some guys are still accustomed to trying to bounce every run outside..where on Heisman, that is usually good for a 2-yard loss. Up the gut is where it is at if you are willing to deal with the tough yards. Passing in this game is much easier, I think mainly because the AI on defense is that poor.
Just my two cents...moving to AA would not necessarily improve this game.

Added:
I think most guys are going the route of the passing game therefore you have less chance of big rushing yards.

[VTrunNgun]

i agree noley... i love running the ball but at times its just a pointless thing to do, i can only handle so many 31 carry 74 yard performances before i decide to chuck around the rock

I agree with you guys on this one to a degree. I know the original argument stemmed from Runningbacks in general, eclipsing the 1000 yard rushing mark on the year. It's clearly evident after 2 full seasons that the 'run' game isn't as easy as it has been in past years.

The running game is interesting though, as feature running backs don't necessarily thrive or guarantee success. Overall rating doesn't nearly factor in as much as other gamebreaking elements. Biggest winning factors this year have been Speed, Accelation, and Agility. If you got a guy that exceeds in those categories then you can break any game open.

Case and point. Jahvid Best of Cal. The guy is like a 78 overall, but he manages to rush for 1500+ this year?

Another big factor I've seen is how you really use your guys. I have GT and my backfield is mediocre to say the least. My stud #21 Jonathan Dwyer: 81 overall with 91 speed and #20 Jamal Evans: 83 overall with 90 speed. I tried using Dwyer as a feature back in my first season, averaging 15-20 carries a game. He would muster out 3 ypc alllllllll year long, drove me fucking nuts.

So in my 2nd year, I tried using him sparingly, as I got my QB Josh Nesbitt evolved more along with Evans and my Fullback. Dropped Dwyers carries down to like 11-13 and he put up about 4.2 ypc. Huge difference, still cranked out around the same amount of rushing yards on the year as season one, but he did it with a lot less carries.

I find sharing the load in your backfield helps a ton and if you can run the ball with multiple people, you may find your overall rushing attack may become stronger. I, like many other teams, don't have a blazing fast RB or even a monster feature back, so I gotta become a bit more flexible.

[pounddarock]

I find sharing the load in your backfield helps a ton and if you can run the ball with multiple people, you may find your overall rushing attack may become stronger. I, like many other teams, don't have a blazing fast RB or even a monster feature back, so I gotta become a bit more flexible.

Exactly! Well stated.

[bigred]

i came to close to having a thousand yard rusher w/memphis..

granted i played in the cusa but i tried to be patient and stick with it even if things werent going so well..

maybe if we went to 7 min quarters...lol....i know that wont happen

[fsupenguin]

We need to give playing on AA a shot again, there it has been said.

[Ank]

AA would make running alot easier and more fun then just everyone throwing the ball 35 times a game. But what about the guys who have passing down to a fine art. Imagine them guys on AA, what would they do against a AI on AA?

[Doodee]

I'd like to offer an experiment that maybe some commishes or vets could put together.

Let's have one volunteer who is pretty good at this game altogether and has some time on their hands, play 12 games as a BCS team with a good back (not someone like Devine or McCoy) who is a thousand yard rusher play their real schedule, against 12 guys that would compete decently against him. Play on AA, and keep the passing and running stats (comp %, TD/INT, and rushing yards).

We could even have a couple of these going. I think doing this a few times could prove interesting results, and is a way we could at least have some form of testing going on.

Thoughts?

[Doodee]

AA would make running alot easier and more fun then just everyone throwing the ball 35 times a game. But what about the guys who have passing down to a fine art. Imagine them guys on AA, what would they do against a AI on AA?

In one scenario, would it would make press coverage a little more acceptable as a more consistent form of defense if passing were a lot easier? Just a thought.

[GeorgesGoons]

I find sharing the load in your backfield helps a ton and if you can run the ball with multiple people, you may find your overall rushing attack may become stronger. I, like many other teams, don't have a blazing fast RB or even a monster feature back, so I gotta become a bit more flexible.

I think this is a very good post. From what I have seen so far is that you have better success at running when your RB is fresh. If that means having to substitute your stud RB every 3-5 plays for 2 or 3 to keep him fresh then it is worth it. In the Online Dynasty I'm in Marlon Lucky does good on 1st and 2nd down rushes to start the drive but later on, say a 12 play drive, he is garbage and cant break a tackle. I think EA tried to level the playing field with these stud RB's getting 40 carries a game without a break. I like it and it makes you mix up your plays and substitutions alot more.

[Cnasty]

This thread is making me want to vomit with all the AA and run game talk.

And Nole your nuts.

I didnt know McCoy played in the MAC????

Just continuously tap...nevermind.

[outlaw]

AA for running that would be a joke.Granted i did have Best this season so running is a lot easier with him but even when i had Mizzou i still managed 700 yards with their hb.The run game is there with any team you just have to be patient and it helps if you have a playbook that is run focused.

[Ry]

A big factor is acceleration and agility, IMO. I used PJ HIll this year thinking I could just plow into the line and get three to four yards a pop and go from there. Nope, that fat fuck couldn't even make it to the LOS.

I am currently using Nebraska in the NDL L and Marlon Lucky, is a stud. He has acceleration, agility and can break tackles.

One more factor is the OL of course. If you manage to find an OL that can sustain their blocks you are running free.

[DRWebs]

What more is there to experiment? We went through this already and offense on AA was a joke