beercop wrote:So you are taking out a team Alabama actually played? And you are counting a team Oregon did not play. Seriously?
You took out an OOC and pretended it never happened?xLiQx wrote:beercop wrote:So you are taking out a team Alabama actually played? And you are counting a team Oregon did not play. Seriously?
Not at all, but Alabama plays 4 OOC games, cause they play 1 less conference game than Oregon....so I took out Michigan, cause that would be like playing another conference game....and I just showed why they played Tenn Tech, it was supposed to be Oregon, I didn't count them at all.
Alabama played Michigan as an out of conference game in 2012.xLiQx wrote:BFiVL wrote:shel311 wrote:So you think a win over 7-3 Arkansas State is better than beating 7-3 Michigan?
Also, Washington is middle of the pack in the pac 12.if Arkansas State is better, then your entire argument is nullified.
Bama played western Kentucky as well. Who did WKU beat by 2 scores this season? Ark state.
Yes.....You play more OOC games than any pac 12 team...so take Michigan away, as tey are like playing a crappy conference game....
so you would play
Western Kentucky 6-4
Florida Atlantic 3-7....horrrrrible
W Carolina 1-9 and could be one of the worst OOC games for any of the top 5 teams for either conference
Oregon
Arkansas State 7-3 leads it's conference right now
Fresno State 8-3 and a respectable opponent to play for a Mid Major
Tennesee Tech 3-7 (which should of been K State, but they pussed out for whatever reason, and I am sure we can draw conclusions).
So that OCC is clearly better than Alabama's....even with the T Tech team which could and should of been someone else. That is why I said the statements I did, so please tell me some other "FACTS"....
Plus Arkansas State is better than Washington.BFiVL wrote:Wrong shel. That was a conf game in this scenario. Also Tenn Tech=k state. I don't mind calling a spade a spade but damn, based on this logic and reasoning I could probably find a way to say Bama won on Saturday.
Yeah Gameday will be here and I'm still trying to trying to get tickets. Getting three together is tough. We are hosting an exchange student this year and are definitely planning on being at Gameday so she can have that experienceplasma1896 wrote:gameday is going to be in eugene Quack?ndlquack wrote:Oregon still has a couple of tough games left. Stanford with Gameday here in Eugene could be a tougher game if we don't get our starting d-line back. We only had one starting d-linemen last night and it showed. Cal was able to exploit us with the inside run until we finally brought down the safety and forced the backup qb to beat us with his arm.
The injury to Patterson might hurt the most though with Boyette already down since the beginning of the season. We are not deep when it comes to safeties.
Plus the civil war is always a battle and this year it is in Corvallis so as Chip would say One game at a time.
It has been an exciting ride, just hope we can finish strong and get into the pac-12 championship game.
Quack
im flying in on friday for the game. my buddys kid is possibly making a unofficial visit saturday as well. Manny Watkins (qb) who won mvp of oregon summer camp.
you going to the game?
Even as a true and long time Duck fan and graduate of the UO, I won't make a point to say Oregon's OOC is better then Bama's. Ours is awful this year, yes we had teams back out but the reality of it is our schedule stinks and if it wasn't for the pac-12 championship game and the fact that we have had Oregon State and Stanford playing well we would be on the outside looking in like Notre Dame. One game at a time just like Chip says.
ND plays a bunch of nobodies in conference.ReignOnU wrote:ND's OOC is better than both.
shel311 wrote:ND plays a bunch of nobodies in conference.ReignOnU wrote:ND's OOC is better than both.
Nobodies!!!!
They don't even have a single conference win this year.ReignOnU wrote:shel311 wrote:ND plays a bunch of nobodies in conference.ReignOnU wrote:ND's OOC is better than both.
Nobodies!!!!
IDK what you're talking about, they play all of the best teams in their conference.
ND will be 21-0 this year. They are having the best season ever!ReignOnU wrote:7-0 in the Big 10 using Liq-Logic.
8-0 in the ACC using Liq-Logic.
xLiQx wrote:
Yes.....You play more OOC games than any pac 12 team...so take Michigan away, as they are like playing a crappy conference game....
I know, I know, I know, Alabama played two elite teams and needed an epic comeback against one (LSU) and lost at home to the other (Texas A&M), and Georgia got housed by South Carolina, and Florida lost to Georgia, but that’s sort of the overall point. Those teams in the SEC are the elite.
There’s one elite team in the Pac-12. There’s one in the Big 12. There aren’t any in the Big Ten or Big East, and Clemson and Florida State are borderline stars from the ACC. It's all about the schedules, and at the moment, if you're not in the SEC, and until you get a win over one of the six SEC teams ranked in the top nine in the latest BCS standings, you still have to earn your stripes.
Sorry, Wildcats, Ducks and Irish, but this year, if you don’t have a notch in the win column against one of the top-ranked SEC teams, you’ve done nothing more than bat .482 in AAA.
Stop right there. Don’t throw out the childish “(team) is unbeaten and the SEC champion will have a loss” line of bull muffins - it demeans us both and makes America dumber and fatter. The elite of the elite SEC teams – Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Texas A&M – all lost to each other. There’s no leakage here, and despite the great seasons from the top three teams in the BCS, there’s nothing to suggest that they wouldn’t have at least one loss if they were thrown into this tumbler of top teams, too.
At the moment, the Kansas State-Oregon-Notre Dame BCS championship debate basically boils down to the same old Boise State argument, only beefed up a few notches. Of course any of the top teams could beat anyone in the SEC in a one shot chance, but could any of the top three deal with what South Carolina was handed with Georgia, at LSU and at Florida in back-to-back-to-back weeks without a blemish? Really, you're going to sit there and honestly argue that Kansas State could've been 4-0 against LSU's run of at Florida, South Carolina, at Texas A&M and Alabama? You don't really believe Notre Dame would be 12-0 with Florida's schedule that includes at Texas A&M, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, and at Florida State, do you?
Yeah, it would be amazing if Kansas State went 12-0 with a Big 12 title. Yeah, I'd like to see a 13-0 Oregon on the big stage. Yeah, Notre Dame has done everything asked of it so far.
Yeah … but …
And don’t try to dismiss this as the inane ramblings of an SEC homer. I’ll be more than happy to bust out a slew of wildly inappropriate and stunningly creepy items of correspondence penned by several good people from the Great State of Alabama wanting to see harm done to me for my incessant screaming all throughout the end of last season that the Crimson Tide didn’t deserve to play for the BCS championship over an Oklahoma State team that finished on top of 2011’s strongest conference.
You know, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know that if you were hooked up to a lie detector and had to bet the house, the car, the kids, your stock options, your virtue – okay, so maybe just the kids – you’d absolutely take Alabama over Kansas State, Oregon or Notre Dame in a BCS championship with Nick Saban and his staff getting six weeks to prepare. And why wouldn’t you?
I would absolutely take Bama on a neutral field betting straight up with even odds against any team in the nation this year without hesitating.beercop wrote: if you were hooked up to a lie detector and had to bet the house, the car, the kids, your stock options, your virtue – okay, so maybe just the kids – you’d absolutely take Alabama over Kansas State, Oregon or Notre Dame in a BCS championship with Nick Saban and his staff getting six weeks to prepare. And why wouldn’t you?
