NFL Thread

[shel311]

Who do you figure in the NDL has the most back and forth arguments? I'm torn between shell - nick, jsence - peay, and jsence - aj....

I think it's actually Shel vs NDL

Makes my undefeated record that much more impressive.

[shel311]

Who do you figure in the NDL has the most back and forth arguments? I'm torn between shell - nick, jsence - peay, and jsence - aj....

Before AJ got his new job and bailed on us, I'd say Nick vs AJ, Nick vs Shel and Shel vs AJ tied for 2nd.

[Cnasty]

I still have yet to see him do anything note worthy in college.

Speaking of whiffing on an evaluation...

I dont see how you cant recognize and give credit where credit is due with this kid.
A true freshman months removed from high school playing in a power conference puts up a 26/12 3000 yard passing season with a 145 rating isnt "doing anything note worthy in college".

But you are the Xs and Os guy that shows that us mere peasants aren't worthy of California football

[shel311]

I still have yet to see him do anything note worthy in college.

Speaking of whiffing on an evaluation...

I dont see how you cant recognize and give credit where credit is due with this kid.
A true freshman months removed from high school playing in a power conference puts up a 26/12 3000 yard passing season with a 145 rating isnt "doing anything note worthy in college".

But you are the Xs and Os guy that shows that us mere peasants aren't worthy of California football

you gotta reply to everything

[nick]

lol smh

[Cnasty]

Spoiler!

[shel311]

Somebody recently found a subredditt with lots of GIFs

[Cnasty]

So many good ones!!!!

[trendon]

The thing with drafting Mariota is we don't know if he will be a bust or not. I think we can all agree that he is probably not going to be a franchise-take-the-team-to-the-Super Bowl kinda guy.

Meanwhile, a guy like Leonard Williams will be that guy. We fucking know he will be good as a rookie and, once he figures out the ins-and-outs of the position (allegedly, he is still very raw which is frightening), he might be legendary. Tampa will take Winston and you can't fault them but the Titans will forever be known as the team that didn't take Williams and Oakland or Washington are going to fucking laugh their asses off because of it.

[nick]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

[trendon]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

They weren't potential Top 5 picks, dude. Stay within context here.

[cougnix]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

They weren't potential Top 5 picks, dude. Stay within context here.

How many QB's drafted top 5 have won Super Bowls? That is a good question.

Peyton Manning is the only one that jumps out. Was Eli a top 5? I don't know just know he was part of the trade for Rivers, but I don't know where he was drafted.

[nick]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

They weren't potential Top 5 picks, dude. Stay within context here.

so what if Williams is the next Tyson Jackson?

[nick]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

They weren't potential Top 5 picks, dude. Stay within context here.

How many QB's drafted top 5 have won Super Bowls? That is a good question.

Peyton Manning is the only one that jumps out. Was Eli a top 5? I don't know just know he was part of the trade for Rivers, but I don't know where he was drafted.

Eli went 1st as well.

[trendon]

Elway, for sure. That's the only other one I got without looking.

[cougnix]

Plunkett, Bradshaw, Aikman, Bledsoe are the few that I just found in a google search.

[nick]

Aikmen

[BFiVL]

Peyton , Eli, Elway


David Carr was a back up to Eli and won a ring. That count?

[trendon]

im sure people said Russell Wilson would never win a super bowl either.. or Flacco.. or Brady.. etc etc

They weren't potential Top 5 picks, dude. Stay within context here.

so what if Williams is the next Tyson Jackson?

He - like Dion Jordan with Miami - were so over-drafted that you're really reaching if you try and compare these two.

[cougnix]

Found this. There is a strong correlation to winning/getting to a Super Bowl when you have a 1st round QB.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/s ... rterbacks/


Super Bowl Quarterbacks
Super Bowl Draft
Year Winner/Loser Year Rnd Pick Plyr Team College
1967 Bart Starr, GB 1956 17 7 200 Packers Alabama
Len Dawson, KC 1957 1 5 5 Steelers Purdue
1968 Bart Starr, GB 1956 17 7 200 Packers Alabama
Daryle Lamonica, OAK 1963 24 14 188 Bills Notre Dame
1969 Joe Namath, NYJ 1965 1 1 1 Jets Alabama
Johnny Unitas, BAL 1955 9 5 102 Steelers Louisville
1970 Len Dawson, KC 1957 1 5 5 Steelers Purdue
Joe Kapp, MIN 1959 18 5 209 Redskins California
1971 Earl Morrall, BAL 1956 1 2 2 49ers Michigan State
Craig Morton, DAL 1965 1 5 5 Cowboys California
1972 Roger Staubach, DAL 1964 10 3 129 Cowboys Navy
Bob Griese, MIA 1967 1 4 4 Dolphins Purdue
1973 Bob Griese, MIA 1967 1 4 4 Dolphins Purdue
Bill Kilmer, WAS 1961 1 11 11 49ers UCLA
1974 Bob Griese, MIA 1967 1 4 4 Dolphins Purdue
Fran Tarkenton, MIN 1961 3 1 29 Vikings Georgia
1975 Terry Bradshaw, PIT 1970 1 1 1 Steelers Louisiana Tech
Fran Tarkenton, MIN 1961 3 1 29 Vikings Georgia
1976 Terry Bradshaw, PIT 1970 1 1 1 Steelers Louisiana Tech
Roger Staubach, DAL 1964 10 3 129 Cowboys Navy
1977 Kenny Stabler, OAK 1968 2 25 52 Raiders Alabama
Fran Tarkenton, MIN 1961 3 1 29 Vikings Georgia
1978 Roger Staubach, DAL 1964 10 3 129 Cowboys Navy
Craig Morton, DEN 1965 1 5 5 Cowboys California
1979 Terry Bradshaw, PIT 1970 1 1 1 Steelers Louisiana Tech
Roger Staubach, DAL 1964 10 3 129 Cowboys Navy
1980 Terry Bradwhaw, PIT 1970 1 1 1 Steelers Louisiana Tech
Vince Ferragamo, LAR 1977 4 7 91 Rams Nebraska
1981 Jim Plunkett, OAK 1971 1 1 1 Patriots Stanford
Ron Jaworski, PHI 1973 2 11 37 Rams Youngstown State
1982 Joe Montana, SF 1979 3 26 82 49ers Notre Dame
Ken Anderson, CIN 1971 3 15 67 Bengals Augustana IL
1983 Joe Theismann, WAS 1971 4 21 99 Dolphins Notre Dame
David Woodley, MIA 1980 8 21 214 Dolphins Louisiana State
1984 Jim Plunkett, LAR 1971 1 1 1 Patriots Stanford
Joe Theismann, WAS 1971 4 21 99 Dolphins Notre Dame
1985 Joe Montano, SF 1979 3 26 82 49ers Notre Dame
Dan Marino, MIA 1983 1 27 27 Dolphins Pittsburgh
1986 Jim McMahon, CHI 1982 1 5 5 Bears Brigham Young
Tony Eason, NE 1983 1 15 15 Patriots Illinois
Steve Grogan, NE 1975 5 12 116 Patriots Kansas State
1987 Phil Simms, NYG 1979 1 7 7 Giants Morehead State
John Elway, DEN 1983 1 1 1 Colts Stanford
1988 Doug Williams, WAS 1978 1 17 17 Buccaneers Grambling
John Elway, DEN 1983 1 1 1 Colts Stanford
1989 Joe Montana, SF 1979 3 26 82 49ers Notre Dame
Boomer Esiason, CIN 1984 2 10 38 Bengals Maryland
1990 Joe Montana, SF 1979 3 26 82 49ers Notre Dame
John Elway, DEN 1983 1 1 1 Colts Stanford
1991 Jeff Hostetler, NYG 1984 3 3 59 Giants West Virginia
Jim Kelly, BUF 1983 1 14 14 Bills Miami FL
1992 Mark Rypien, WAS 1986 6 8 146 Redskins Washington State
Jim Kelly, BUF 1983 1 14 14 Bills Miami FL
1993 Troy Aikman, DAL 1989 1 1 1 Cowboys UCLA
Jim Kelly, BUF 1983 1 14 14 Bills Miami FL
Frank Reich, BUF 1985 3 1 57 Bills Maryland
1994 Troy Aikman, DAL 1989 1 1 1 Cowboys UCLA
Jim Kelly, BUF 1983 1 14 14 Bills Miami FL
1995 Steve Young, SF 1984s 1 1 1 Buccaneers Brigham Young
Stan Humphreys, SD 1988 6 22 159 Redskins Louisiana - Monroe
1996 Troy Aikman, DAL 1989 1 1 1 Cowboys UCLA
Neil O'Donnell, PIT 1990 3 17 70 Steelers Maryland
1997 Brett Favre, GB 1991 2 6 33 Falcons Southern Mississippi
Drew Bledsoe, NE 1993 1 1 1 Patriots Washington State
1998 John Elway, DEN 1983 1 1 1 Colts Stanford
Brett Favre, GB 1991 2 6 33 Falcons Southern Mississippi
1999 John Elway, DEN 1983 1 1 1 Colts Stanford
Chris Chandler, ATL 1988 3 21 76 Colts Washington
2000 Kurt Warner, STL undrafted Northern Iowa
Steve McNair, TEN 1995 1 3 3 Oilers Alcorn State
2001 Trent Dilfer, BAL 1994 1 6 6 Buccaneers Fresno State
Kerry Collins, NYG 1995 1 5 5 Panthers Penn State
2002 Tom Brady, NE 2000 6 33 199 Patriots Michigan
Kurt Warner, STL undrafted Northern Iowa
2003 Brad Johnson, TB 1992 9 3 227 Vikings Florida State
Rich Gannon, OAK 1987 4 14 98 Patriots Delaware
2004 Tom Brady, NE 2000 6 33 199 Patriots Michigan
Jake Delhomme, CAR undrafted Louisiana - Lafayette
2005 Tom Brady, NE 2000 6 33 199 Patriots Michigan
Donovan McNabb, PHI 1999 1 2 2 Patriots Syracuse
2006 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 2004 1 11 11 Steelers Miami OH
Matt Hasselbeck, SEA 1998 6 34 187 Packers Boston College
2007 Peyton Manning, IND 1998 1 1 1 Colts Tennessee
Rex Grossman, CHI 2003 1 22 22 Bears Florida
2008 Eli Manning, NYG 2004 1 1 1 Chargers Mississippi
Tom Brady, NE 2000 6 33 199 Patriots Michigan
2009 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 2004 1 11 11 Steelers Miami OH
Kurt Warner, ARI undrafted Northern Iowa
2010 Drew Brees, NO 2001 2 1 32 Chargers Purdue
Peyton Manning, IND 1998 1 1 1 Colts Tennessee
2011 Aaron Rodgers, GB 2005 1 24 24 Packers California
Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 2004 1 11 11 Steelers Miami OH
2012 Eli Manning, NYG 2004 1 1 1 Chargers Mississippi
Tom Brady, NE 2000 6 33 199 Patriots Michigan
2013 Joe Flacco, BAL 2008 1 18 18 Ravens Delaware
Colin Kaepernick, SF 2011 2 4 36 49ers Nevada
2014 Russell Wilson, SEA 2012 3 12 75 Seahawks Wisconsin
Peyton Manning, DEN 1998 1 1 1 Colts Tennessee