Politics and stuff

[The_Niddler]

Wait, Trump has some businesses that have worked out.
He owns hotels, casinos, a broadcasting company, a skating rink, wineries and vineyards, Golf courses, among other things I am sure.
So don't state that everything he has done has failed.

In fact, from everything I can find, of the bunches of businesses he owns, he has filed for bankruptcy 4 times.
So, if you look at it that way, I would say he has actually been quite successful.
Tons of businesses start up and end with bankruptcies, so IMO, the ratio he has, I would say he has been quite successful.

Now, with all of that said, I am not saying I feel he is qualified or that I will vote for him to run our country, but don't generalize things and say that every business venture he has tried has failed.

And I will also argue that being in real estate is still being a businessman.
If you look up businessman in the dictionary:
a man who works in business or commerce, especially at an executive level.
synonyms: entrepreneur, business person, industrialist, manufacturer, tycoon, baron, magnate, executive, employer; More
a person with a specified level of skill in financial matters.

So I would say he qualifies as a business man according to the definition.

[shel311]

If you're quoting Forbes, Forbes has his net worth at $4 billion, which is what I said(I said he was a successful businessman), which is essentially what you called me a troll for basically.

HARDLY ANY OF THAT MONEY IS FROM BEING A BUSINESSMAN!!!!!!

What part of this do you not get?!?!?! Real estate is not being a businessman! It's investment!

The actual "business" ventures he has entered into have failed. Some of them miserably.

Per your quote, $125M is brand value, how does that equate to "hardly" when the rest of his value is like $3.875B, give or take?

I'm confused.

And did you say purchasing real estate for commercial use is not "business"?

[DRWebs]

What do you guys think about the protesters - supporters - security interaction at Trumps rallies? Should he be held responsible for any or their actions? Are the protesters being overly antagonist? All the footage, audio, and transcripts look pretty damning but it could also be just people focusing on the bad a la the daily news.

[DRiccio21]

HARDLY ANY OF THAT MONEY IS FROM BEING A BUSINESSMAN!!!!!!

What part of this do you not get?!?!?! Real estate is not being a businessman! It's investment!

The actual "business" ventures he has entered into have failed. Some of them miserably.

possibly one of the most ignorant things i've ever read on our boads

[Uuaww]

What did you expect? Jason is not capable of seeing the other side of any argument. Only his own.

[DRiccio21]

What did you expect? Jason is not capable of seeing the other side of any argument. Only his own.

i think he is, i just think he gets excited and can't control his brain boners

[DRWebs]

What did you expect? Jason is not capable of seeing the other side of any argument. Only his own.

i think he is, i just think he gets excited and can't control his brain boners

Brain boners

[GeorgesGoons]

What do you guys think about the protesters - supporters - security interaction at Trumps rallies? Should he be held responsible for any or their actions? Are the protesters being overly antagonist? All the footage, audio, and transcripts look pretty damning but it could also be just people focusing on the bad a la the daily news.

I think it's a volatile mix of a lot of factors. Americans being angry with the political system not working for the people, perfectly timed editing of footage, protesters being overly antagonistic, a lot of people viewing the black lives matter movement as a racist group. You lump all of that plus other factors and you have a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

I do think that you get a lot more protesters at Trump rallies than any other candidate, and couple that with them not silently protesting just adds fuel to the fire.

But to lump 20,000+ people at a rally because of 10 or so bad apples is just wrong IMO.

[shel311]

Hadn't heard of this, but what would be the reason for Trump to be held responsible?

[GeorgesGoons]

And that's just it--he's taken investment (real estate) risks and paid off handsomely. he also benefited from illegal hiring practices for his workers and hiring cheap foreign labor (you know, the thing he claims is hurting America). he didn't run a business and do well with it.

Sorry brother, but you are a little off your rocker here.

His hiring practices aren't illegal. He knows the system and uses it to his advantage. If they were illegal he would have been brought up on charges long ago. Switch from MSNBC over to CNN and Fox News every once in a while to get different sides of the story, then read different newspapers (because they all have their own political agenda as well) to form an educated decision. But to say they are illegal is not being educated.

[GeorgesGoons]

Hadn't heard of this, but what would be the reason for Trump to be held responsible?

The media says he fosters a hostile environment.

But this is the same media that said he was a racist and showed everyone at one of his rallies with their right hand in the air, they were calling it a nazi salute. He was just getting a pledge out of them.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ ... -ignorant/



To me this is the biggest reason I believe he is doing great during the primaries. The American people are tired of Washington politics not working for them and the media making mountains out of mole hills to force their political agenda down our throats.

[DRWebs]

I hadn't heard about the pledge and that does sound pretty ridiculous. Again this is the media so take it with a grain of salt, but this was more so what I was referring to. Agree with your statement about the volatile mix of everything involved and that we don't necessarily know who's starting what however. Hard to fault Trump for his supporters but can't think he's making it any easier on himself at the same time. There was also an alleged assault of a reporter by a Trump security member but I think that one seemed blown out of proportion. The reporter did post dome bruises on her arm but nothing crazy imo

[DRiccio21]

Trump is certainly hostile and spreads a message of separation rather than a message of love.

i would rather see our economy destroyed than support someone who separates.

[OracleHCR]

Trump is misquoted, taken out of context, and misrepresented by the media more than any other candidate this voting cycle. It isn't even close. I like a lot of what he says but I don't know if I can vote for him. It's Donald Trump. If it comes down to between him or Hillary, he'll get my vote.
How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason. Her past of corruption and deceit goes all the way back to Watergate. Scandal after scandal over the last 40 plus years and the people who vote for her just don't care.

[shel311]

How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason

Ahhhhhh, politics!!!

[Crowes]

Trump is misquoted, taken out of context, and misrepresented by the media more than any other candidate this voting cycle. It isn't even close. I like a lot of what he says but I don't know if I can vote for him. It's Donald Trump. If it comes down to between him or Hillary, he'll get my vote.
How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason. Her past of corruption and deceit goes all the way back to Watergate. Scandal after scandal over the last 40 plus years and the people who vote for her just don't care.

Please be more specific. Where is taken out of context and misquoted? He does more media interviews then all other candidates combined id guess so if he is misquoted or taken out of context its cause he purposely wants to be cause he talks without saying anything. He is horribly vague about almost ever subject he talks about leaving everyone to including some of retards imagination to run wild.

[GeorgesGoons]

Trump is misquoted, taken out of context, and misrepresented by the media more than any other candidate this voting cycle. It isn't even close. I like a lot of what he says but I don't know if I can vote for him. It's Donald Trump. If it comes down to between him or Hillary, he'll get my vote.
How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason. Her past of corruption and deceit goes all the way back to Watergate. Scandal after scandal over the last 40 plus years and the people who vote for her just don't care.

Please be more specific. Where is taken out of context and misquoted? He does more media interviews then all other candidates combined id guess so if he is misquoted or taken out of context its cause he purposely wants to be cause he talks without saying anything. He is horribly vague about almost ever subject he talks about leaving everyone to including some of retards imagination to run wild.

Read the article I posted above. Not misquoted per se but definitely misrepresented. It was a non-issue that was made a story. He had them bledge to go vote at the primary.

And honestly, your last line there is the reason Trump supporters are unwaivering. You call them retards. It's juvenile at best to resort to name calling. That goes for everyone, trump, Trump supporters, everyone.

[OracleHCR]

I guess you've missed where he is a racist against all immigration. You probably believed that one though. How about where none of the refugees should be allowed in the US? I'm guessing you believed that one too.
I'm not a fan of Trump. You obviously don't believe in media bias. It is there and if you did homework rather than believing everything you read on Facebook, you'd know what I'm talking about.

[OracleHCR]

How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason

Ahhhhhh, politics!!!

Not politics. If we don't agree that is fine. No big deal. She's a fucking criminal.

[Crowes]

Trump is misquoted, taken out of context, and misrepresented by the media more than any other candidate this voting cycle. It isn't even close. I like a lot of what he says but I don't know if I can vote for him. It's Donald Trump. If it comes down to between him or Hillary, he'll get my vote.
How anyone can consider voting for her is beyond reason. Her past of corruption and deceit goes all the way back to Watergate. Scandal after scandal over the last 40 plus years and the people who vote for her just don't care.

Please be more specific. Where is taken out of context and misquoted? He does more media interviews then all other candidates combined id guess so if he is misquoted or taken out of context its cause he purposely wants to be cause he talks without saying anything. He is horribly vague about almost ever subject he talks about leaving everyone to including some of retards imagination to run wild.

Read the article I posted above. Not misquoted per se but definitely misrepresented. It was a non-issue that was made a story. He had them bledge to go vote at the primary.

And honestly, your last line there is the reason Trump supporters are unwaivering. You call them retards. It's juvenile at best to resort to name calling. That goes for everyone, trump, Trump supporters, everyone.

I wasn't calling all trump supporters retards. All of the candidates have supporters with below average intelligence but with the way he speaks leaves those to truly take what he's saying to a crazy level of stupidity.