COVID-19

[shel311]

are you in denial mode? or you just uninformed? im confused by your responses. Has anyone other than George even defended any of the stupidity you've said? Stay inside pls and dont let your ignorance kill others.

One of my favorite things when going back and forth with nick is when he just gets so confused that he forgets what is even being discussed.


All the stuff nick thinks I'm stupid for saying is stuff being taken directly from the likes of Dr Fauci, various experts, but because it's not in line with "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE" it's all stupid? Yea, that's the ticket.



TIL nick is more of an infectious disease expert than the actual experts. He's an awfully confident fella, I give him that.

[nick]

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc ... hs-winter/

An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease’s highest death toll in at least four decades.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6747721/coro ... ci-deaths/

Dr. Anthony Fauci, speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday, offered his prognosis as the federal government weighs rolling back guidelines on social distancing in areas that have not been hard-hit by the outbreak at the conclusion of the nationwide 15-day effort to slow the spread of the virus.

“I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases,” he said, correcting himself to say he meant deaths. “We’re going to have millions of cases.” But he added “I don’t want to be held to that” because the pandemic is “such a moving target.”

80k last yr.. most in 40 yrs.. 100k (low end and laughably no projection has this being right) - 200k (still low) but 2.5x times worse than last years deadly flu... is just a "severe flu"

youre so misinformed.

[shel311]

youre so misinformed.

About?

[nick]

Reply to my last post with Fauci facts or anything and i'll listen.

[nick]

Italy seems to be flattening the curve over the past few days.

wrong

[nick]

Nate Silver, the dude from 538, spoke to a bunch of experts who say the actual number of cases is likely 10x higher than currently.

If true it makes COVID mortality rate right in line with the flu but the obvious issue still being slowing it down as even if it's "just the flu" we're not equipped to fight 2 flus essentially.

Dr Fauci co-authored a report in the New England(Spitters suck) Journal of Medicine in which he says COVID may be more like a severe seasonal flu.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ex ... l-unclear/

wrong

[nick]

Shel from Random Discussions:

Looks like we had less new cases yesterday than the day before, which would be huge if we continue that trend and flatten that curve:

Wrong once again

[shel311]

Reply to my last post with Fauci facts or anything and i'll listen.

Post it again? You didn't listen the first time, but you will now, is that what you're telling me?

I've already posted facts with Fauci stating he thinks it's probably we have 10x cases, as well as I've posted a bunch of experts who agree, some even saying as many as 50x cases than the amount of positive tests.

Fauci said if his projections ended up being correct, it would be comparable to a severe flu. I didn't say that, he did.



You keep getting mad at me and calling me stupid like I'm running the models or some shit. I'm just posting what experts are saying, but you don't like it because it doesn't fit your 'WE WILL ALL DIE" narrative, that much is obvious.

[nick]

you cannot find "Dr Fauci Severe Flu" with a credible link. Thats my point. Youre spewing nonsense.

I dont want people to die if I did I wouldnt post any info and you guys could go live you fucking lives kissing jerking off doign whatever to people. I'm showing the stats every day to hopefully scare people into being smarter about this. If they dont, oh well then.

The simple fact and truth is.. this is killing more people at a faster rate than essentially anything we've had in decades.

[shel311]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ex ... l-unclear/

wrong

TIL Nick thinks he knows more about this shit than Dr Fauci

[nick]

[shel311]

Shel from Random Discussions:

Looks like we had less new cases yesterday than the day before, which would be huge if we continue that trend and flatten that curve:

Wrong once again

Different sources have different amounts, the #s are very close. Roughly 20k new cases the past 2 days, some sources say 21k 2 days ago and 20k yesterday, but you're so hard up to try and prove me wrong you're out here posting a cumulative chart like it means something.

Keep trying, you'll get one right...eventually.

[shel311]

I dont want people to die if I did I wouldnt post any info and you guys could go live you fucking lives kissing jerking off doign whatever to people. I'm showing the stats every day to hopefully scare people into being smarter about this. If they dont, oh well then.

Nick literally thinks his posts are why NDLers in the US are not dying from this...literally.

[nick]

Trump, who has largely avoided talk of potential death and infection rates, cited projection models that said potentially 2.2 million people or more could have died had social distancing measures not been put in place. And he said the country would be doing well if it "can hold" the number of deaths “down to 100,000."


Everything about this ^^ says this is anything but a "Severe flu" if 80k dying last year was the most in a long ass time.

[nick]

I dont want people to die if I did I wouldnt post any info and you guys could go live you fucking lives kissing jerking off doign whatever to people. I'm showing the stats every day to hopefully scare people into being smarter about this. If they dont, oh well then.

Nick literally thinks his posts are why NDLers in the US are not dying from this...literally.

if I save 1 NDL'ers life I'm happy.

[shel311]

you cannot find "Dr Fauci Severe Flu" with a credible link. Thats my point. Youre spewing nonsense.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387



Linked, article written by Dr Fauci:

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2

Time for that Strawman, let's change the subject, quick!!!

[nick]

Did u even read what you wrote?

[shel311]

Italy seems to be flattening the curve over the past few days.

wrong

I was correct, but nice try.

Note to nick, just saying "wrong" means absolutely nothing, so there's that.

[shel311]

Did u even read what you wrote?

Yep, 100% proved you wrong. Deal with it. No need to try and weasel your way out of it.




I like how nick is going to try to play the game where he says but Dr Fauci said "if" a bunch of stuff happens...while he throws out the 100-200k number quote from Dr Fauci where the very next thing he says is, "I don't want to be held to that."



You've now found yourself in a corner where you're going to be wrong no matter how you try to get out of it. Only you can do that.

[nick]

I don’t understand what it means. Can you explain?

I saw a lot of “if” and “maybes” so I’m just curious.