GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:36 pm
I'm almost positive Nebraska is one of the first 5 states to open up. Mostly due to the low positive cases and deaths here in the state compared to elsewhere.
wonder why the numbers are low? hmm
Id rather get covid than live in Nebraska
We’d rather you get Covid than live here too
I was too busy eating wings to respond. Thanks for typing what I was thinking.
shel311 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:31 pm
NDL:O - Let us know what the outside work is like in May.
Governor Mike DeWine
@GovMikeDeWine
I am an optimist and am confident that Ohioans will also live up to the challenge of doing things differently as we open back up beginning on May 1st.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I've been saying that I'd like to see a go forward plan. So this is a step in that direction. But I'd like to hear the answer to how states like NY, PA, MI, and IN impact us when this happens.
I'm fairly certain that even if we open up things in May, that the most I'd be in my office in May is for a few days between the 6th and 15th.
Cnasty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:05 pm
"Opening Up America Again" Plan
Plan that is being discussed on May 1st recommended to state governors from President and “governors call their own shot”...completely different then he is the end all be all authoritarian.
14 straight days of declining new cases required to get to phase 1.
Phase 1
"Vulnerable" people shelter in place
Schools stay close
Restaurants can be open under very "strict guidelines", Bars closed
Gyms reopen-very strict distancing
No more then 10 people in a gathering
Minimize non-essential travel
Phase 2
Same for vulnerable
Encourage telework, some workers return in phases
Schools reopen
No more then 50 people gathering
Non-essential travel can resume
Bars open, same restaurant
Phase 3
No restrictions on workplace
Limit physical distancing and sanitation "protocols"
This is very very gray but its something
Thanks for posting. I was tied up last night and didn't follow what was going on.
I assume they were vague on the 14 straight days piece... as in, if it's linear or literally 14 straight. Also, that can kind of be misguided by testing, but I guess that's the best they can go with. I feel like there needs to be an additional 2 weeks in between the phases, before restarting the 14 day count to get to the next phase. Depending on the incubation period and timeline for phases to start once they are allowed, going phase 1, then 14 days later to phase 2 could be a big issue, because we really haven't seen the impact of phase 1.
I've got a love/hate relationship with Nate Silver... but his tweets and data have been pretty solid throughout. Definitely recommend following/reading.
Nick... similar to your post about the known lung issue sample... here is a test of 3,000 in Santa Clara County, recruited via target Facebook adds, over a 2 day period in early April.
These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.
ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.
Without even knowing what the confirmed cases are, Im going to guess that they mean 50-85 times, not fold. A 50-85 fold increase in anything would be an astronomical number
ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.
Without even knowing what the confirmed cases are, Im going to guess that they mean 50-85 times, not fold. A 50-85 fold increase in anything would be an astronomical number
Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”
ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.
Without even knowing what the confirmed cases are, Im going to guess that they mean 50-85 times, not fold. A 50-85 fold increase in anything would be an astronomical number
Fold means times, multiple. Not exponential.
I stand corrected. I always learned it to mean exponential, as in a two fold increase to equal a four times increase. Looked it up, I was wrong apparently.
EDIT: Scratch that, I guess we're both right
In the field of genomics (and more generally in bioinformatics), the modern usage is to define fold change in terms of ratios, and not by the alternative definition.[9][10]
However, log-ratios are often used for analysis and visualization of fold changes. The logarithm to base 2 is most commonly used,[9][10] as it is easy to interpret, e.g. a doubling in the original scaling is equal to a log2 fold change of 1, a quadrupling is equal to a log2 fold change of 2 and so on.
Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”
You get corona! You get corona! You get corona!
Sounds like my conspiracy theory may be correct.
There is a headline news article that quotes Mayor DeBlasio that most of these deaths were in long term facilities. Without testing what is the purpose of inflating numbers that cannot be verified? There has to be a motive behind this.
Conspiracy theory forthcoming:
The cities and states get more federal money for healthcare upgrades with the extra deaths?
I would hope that's not the case but can see some logic to it if the numbers line up. Anyone know of a website to follow the money?
Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”
You get corona! You get corona! You get corona!
Sounds like my conspiracy theory may be correct.
There is a headline news article that quotes Mayor DeBlasio that most of these deaths were in long term facilities. Without testing what is the purpose of inflating numbers that cannot be verified? There has to be a motive behind this.
Conspiracy theory forthcoming:
The cities and states get more federal money for healthcare upgrades with the extra deaths?
I would hope that's not the case but can see some logic to it if the numbers line up. Anyone know of a website to follow the money?
Yes, the cities and states are overstating their COVID cases to defraud the Federal government... at the direction of the CDC/Federal Gov't. We've been over this already!
Ignore the attention grabbing headline, no one is actually getting a $1.7 million stimulus check, but this still seems like a pretty shitty thing to have ended up in the stimulus plan:
Changing a tax limitation for this year that will result in a $90B difference in taxes where $74B of that benefit will be seen by people making over $1M - shady?
.. Joe Rogan was right when he said the only people who actually believe in conspiracy theories are old white people
