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Crowes wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:22 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm
wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:18 pm If this is the case why in the world would they not have just declassified this shit 2 years ago?
You really have to ask that question? The reason they didn't declassify this is because it didn't fit the narrative that Trump was a Russian agent. The left and the media has tried to criminalize everything Trump since he took office.

In other news, Biden is still up in the general election polls. Good thing we don't go by that. Trump leads in most of the swing states. Get ready for another impeachment hoax by the dioahit Schiff, if the Dems can keep control of the house
Unless I'm mistaken is it not trump that can declassify? So the fact this wasn't done earlier is on him and his administration? If this really was any kind of meaningful smoking gun he would have declassified all this while the investigation was ongoing correct?
You are 100% correct that the president can declassify. But you are ignorant if you think he declassifies this and then the media and dioahit Schiff says he is weaponizing his ability to declassify something to clear his name.
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Cnasty wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:23 pm Didnt we have this discussion already?

Why dont you turn on Fox and provide what their "headline" is?

Why do you care if you are fully knowing what one media outlet is going to slant to?
Because there are idiots out there that will not watch all 3 networks to form their own opinion. They like to be spoon fed their political leaning BS
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So you honestly feel the "idiots", if there are some here, need you to explain that a left biased station is providing left biased updates?

Does that make you feel good?
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Cnasty wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:27 pm So you honestly feel the "idiots", if there are some here, need you to explain that a left biased station is providing left biased updates?

Does that make you feel good?
Makes me feel great! Thanks for looking out for my mental well-being
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And from some of the "idiots" here thinks CNN is pretty accurate with their reporting of all things without bias
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:24 pm
Crowes wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:22 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm
wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:18 pm If this is the case why in the world would they not have just declassified this shit 2 years ago?
You really have to ask that question? The reason they didn't declassify this is because it didn't fit the narrative that Trump was a Russian agent. The left and the media has tried to criminalize everything Trump since he took office.

In other news, Biden is still up in the general election polls. Good thing we don't go by that. Trump leads in most of the swing states. Get ready for another impeachment hoax by the dioahit Schiff, if the Dems can keep control of the house
Unless I'm mistaken is it not trump that can declassify? So the fact this wasn't done earlier is on him and his administration? If this really was any kind of meaningful smoking gun he would have declassified all this while the investigation was ongoing correct?
You are 100% correct that the president can declassify. But you are ignorant if you think he declassifies this and then the media and dioahit Schiff says he is weaponizing his ability to declassify something to clear his name.
What's the difference in the response in doing it today compared to doing it back then as far as from the media and Schiff? It's all the same ain't it?
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Crowes wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:32 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:24 pm
Crowes wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:22 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm
wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:18 pm If this is the case why in the world would they not have just declassified this shit 2 years ago?
You really have to ask that question? The reason they didn't declassify this is because it didn't fit the narrative that Trump was a Russian agent. The left and the media has tried to criminalize everything Trump since he took office.

In other news, Biden is still up in the general election polls. Good thing we don't go by that. Trump leads in most of the swing states. Get ready for another impeachment hoax by the dioahit Schiff, if the Dems can keep control of the house
Unless I'm mistaken is it not trump that can declassify? So the fact this wasn't done earlier is on him and his administration? If this really was any kind of meaningful smoking gun he would have declassified all this while the investigation was ongoing correct?
You are 100% correct that the president can declassify. But you are ignorant if you think he declassifies this and then the media and dioahit Schiff says he is weaponizing his ability to declassify something to clear his name.
What's the difference in the response in doing it today compared to doing it back then as far as from the media and Schiff? It's all the same ain't it?
Timing is everything. He had to deal with 3 years of impeachment talk and this would have just been another thing they could have added to the impeachment process. So to refresh your memory, the President is 100% able to delay funds approved by confress, Obama did the same. But that was one of the articles in the impeachment proceedings. So if you don't think this would have been added to the impeachment process I don't know what to tell you. You hate the man and can never see any good with anything he does. So you will never see facts as they lay out without a slanted preconceived idea of what you want
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm
wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:18 pm If this is the case why in the world would they not have just declassified this shit 2 years ago?
You really have to ask that question? The reason they didn't declassify this is because it didn't fit the narrative that Trump was a Russian agent. The left and the media has tried to criminalize everything Trump since he took office.

In other news, Biden is still up in the general election polls. Good thing we don't go by that. Trump leads in most of the swing states. Get ready for another impeachment hoax by the dioahit Schiff, if the Dems can keep control of the house
Yeah man I am just not going to agree here. I am not saying what Shel is saying is not true. He is not emotionally attached to any of this and usually gets data driven and factual things so it probably is true. Trump could have declassified it and saying he did not because they would use it against him does not make much sense as Trump does whatever he wants and did plenty of stuff that was sketchy and this one would not have been sketchy at all it seems.

Politics are dumb and those who keep up with it so hardcore are insane but whatevs. Thanks for letting me know what is up with Flynn Shel, next time it will be a Slack message!!!!!!
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wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:47 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:17 pm
wdoupis wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:18 pm If this is the case why in the world would they not have just declassified this shit 2 years ago?
You really have to ask that question? The reason they didn't declassify this is because it didn't fit the narrative that Trump was a Russian agent. The left and the media has tried to criminalize everything Trump since he took office.

In other news, Biden is still up in the general election polls. Good thing we don't go by that. Trump leads in most of the swing states. Get ready for another impeachment hoax by the dioahit Schiff, if the Dems can keep control of the house
Yeah man I am just not going to agree here. I am not saying what Shel is saying is not true. He is not emotionally attached to any of this and usually gets data driven and factual things so it probably is true. Trump could have declassified it and saying he did not because they would use it against him does not make much sense as Trump does whatever he wants and did plenty of stuff that was sketchy and this one would not have been sketchy at all it seems.

Politics are dumb and those who keep up with it so hardcore are insane but whatevs. Thanks for letting me know what is up with Flynn Shel, next time it will be a Slack message!!!!!!
I literally said the same thing Shel did. I just took it a step further to speculate what would have happened had he declassified it
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Why of course one would say the inspector general wasnt "acting in a way that the secretary felt made the State Department better." When he's investigating you ... :lol:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ning-state
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It's crazy how much better Ivanka talks in a public space off the top of her head compared to her dad
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Is it really? Trump is one of, if not, THE worst public speaking political leader that we've ever had.
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That bar is incredibly low
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politicians in general speak in a cadence i cannot fucking stand.
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Oh my, is this real?

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 7515988997




That can't be real.
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shel311 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:57 am Oh my, is this real?

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 7515988997




That can't be real.
Yes, Biden is an idiot.
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Given how we've treated Trump comments in the media, I imagine this is gonna be a huge deal considering this is pretty easily more racist than anything Trump has said, right?

Right?


Yea, no.

I dislike both equally as my next President, but man, the nothing I assume will come of this statement is just astounding to me. This should be something that results in almost an immediate dropping out of the race, it really is that bad.
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shel311 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:10 am Given how we've treated Trump comments in the media, I imagine this is gonna be a huge deal considering this is pretty easily more racist than anything Trump has said, right?

Right?


Yea, no.

I dislike both equally as my next President, but man, the nothing I assume will come of this statement is just astounding to me. This should be something that results in almost an immediate dropping out of the race, it really is that bad.
We can only be so fortunate that he will drop out.

And it is blowing up in the sense that most news sites like politico, the hill, New York times, and others are covering it today.
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Basically handing the second term to Trump.

Nicely done Democrats.
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I don't want him dropping out. He needs to stay in the race.
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