jsence2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:16 am
ReignOnU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:15 am
Some of these hot takes are as laughable as the exaggerated coverage. What happened yesterday certainly isn't right, but it's far from what we saw this summer. I wasn't able to follow minute by minute yesterday, but I saw 2 videos of the shooting, the follow up of the 2 by-standers to the shooting outside and numerous pics and clips of other stuff.
The female was shot as she was climbing through a window (side of an entry), unarmed, no real threat to anything. Initial reports would have had you thinking we had an active shooter ready to mow down every Dem politician in there. When it came out she was a protestor and potentially shot by a guard, no one gave a shit. Imagine that happened if this were leftists rushing in against a Trump presidency. The outrage would have burned DC to the ground last night. Even the commentary on social media was a joke. So hypocritical to see 1 side laughing about it, when they know damn well they'd have been crying foul and rioting if it were the other way around.
Speaking of burning DC to the ground... that's what everyone told me was going on. Such a horrible event that they went back in and resumed the vote. What about those "armed standoffs?" Still waiting for the pics of protestors raising their arms at law enforcement and trying to hold their ground or push forward. The only people taking aim were LEO/security as people tried to enter chambers. Nothing came of that.... why? Because it wasn't an armed standoff.
1 building, glass broken, stupid costumes worn, pictures taken in the VP's chair, 1 non-threatening female protestor shot, building cleared out and work resumed within 10 hours. Those are facts. Those facts don't align with commentary. Before anyone wants to chime in about the 3 "other" deaths... someone needs to tell us more than "separate medical emergencies" as the reason.
This "divide" that someone suggested happened over the last 4 years, came from Obama. How do you think Trump came to be? Obama's second term was incredibly divisive, but of course you're a racist if you acknowledge that. Obviously Trump didn't stop the divide, but to think that it starts and ends with him is crazy. This doesn't end when the presidency changes hands and it's far more than just a left/right political divide.
When Obama was nominated, Mitch McConnell stated that his primary goal was to make him a one-term president. He refused to even hold a hearing for numerous judge spots three years before Obama left office.
When Obama wore a tan suit, he was slammed by the right as being "unpresidential".
Obama was accused before even being elected of being a Muslim, a terrorist, and faking being an American citizen.
So please do not claim that Obama and the left was why things got so nasty, when the GOP was attacking him personally before he even took the oath of office.
Let's also keep one other thing in mind: Obama's second term was around the same time that Twitter took off. The rise of social media can directly be tied to when people stopped viewing other people as Americans, and viewing them as "us and them", "Libtards" and "racists".
As for yesterday...People who tried to tear down Confederate statues were treated worse than people who stormed the Capitol yesterday. Please do not compare the actions yesterday with people fighting for racial equality and being fed up with police brutality. There is no comparison to be made.
- What McConnell tried is nothing new. That's gone on since well before we were around.
- I've got not clue what point you're trying to make about the color of Obama's suit.
- Where we were politically prior to Obama taking office vs where we were at the end was a huge leap in terms of division. The comments frequently thrown at Trump are that he should be bringing us together. While I don't care for the Bush's, they weren't sowing these levels of discontent from the White House. It was late in Obama's first term and it ramped up all through his second term. Throwing in stuff about how he was attacked prior to taking office applies the same to Trump as well. So if you're going to use that kind of stuff to justify it, it goes both ways. I mean, that is of course if you also don't follow the mantra of "rules for thee, but not for me."
- I absolutely agree that the rise in social media played a part. It's as if you understand that it ramped up in this time period, but you're not willing to come out and say it.
- 1.) I must have missed a non-threatening, unarmed civilian being shot during the the Confederate statue stuff. 2.) As for comparing the 2, I never said 1 was equal to another. Which again, actually further proves the point I was making. If you didn't see any of it and just listened to the narratives or read the social media posts, you'd have thought DC was burning to the ground. However, earlier this year, "the mostly peaceful protests" actually did burn tons of buildings to the ground.
Since you decided to just run off and take the post elsewhere, let's get back to the facts as I typed them yesterday...
1 building, glass broken, stupid costumes worn, pictures taken in the VP's chair, 1 non-threatening female protestor shot, building cleared out and work resumed within 10 hours. Those are facts. Those facts don't align with commentary. Before anyone wants to chime in about the 3 "other" deaths... someone needs to tell us more than "separate medical emergencies" as the reason.
As for the 3 others... a random heart attack from an older guy with high blood pressure, a random stroke for an older transport driver and the 3rd sounds like it could have been a lady that fell and either hit her head or was trampled in a mob of people. Of course, that's all not going to sound so scary, so you won't be getting updates on those from an official news source. Furthermore, the 2 "bombs" were not actually bombs, nor anything resembling a bomb. The active shooter was never active... nor was there a shooter (other than the guard). Armed standoff? I guess, if LEO pointing guns at civilians who don't have drawn weapons is an armed standoff. I've read conflicting reports about an officer that was hit with fire extinguisher in the head dying, but then I saw a retraction, but also saw later dated posts that he died. That would actually be the most violent act by any of the protesters that I've found. If there's something else out there, feel free to add it. But I believe I've more than made the point that the headlines, the Tweets, the news coverage, etc that you're hearing certainly doesn't align with the language used to describe what happened this summer.