Any New Rules being added for NCAA 10?

[bigred]

guess run=garbage

[6ftdeep]

Well I m getting the impression that there will no restrictions on using these new features any of them.
So in moderation is gonna be the key, but I will tell you right now that depending on how you use the feature if used will determine a lot of scores....

For instance if you use jump the snap against me, this is only against me now.. over 65% of the game, or every big 3rd down ... etc etc.. you get the jest, I will dock you a point.. Just because I believe the feature is overdone.

Secondly if you use the guess left, right, middle when playing me, and shift anyone or i end up seeing the guy your using shoot the gap, even though you guess the wrong direction or I m actually passing. Then that is instant 1s across the board. (furthermore if the feature is used excessively over 50% of every run play I call then I docking a point, no one is that damn predictable- at least Im not.)
I have voiced over and over how it is so easy to abuse the ai with this feature and how I feel about it, I will not accept oh I didnt know.
Other then that you can use all the other features as your heart is content and I wont care. (Because personal opinion agian - they have more balanced risk / reward results on them)

But I think those features more then anything are the ones that you are gonna have to worry about, and judge your usage of them toward the oppenents you are playing ..
Now everyone knows how I feel about them, I m done voiceing my opinion on these features particular those two, because it falls on deft ears, and everyone claims they are so easy to counter blah blah blah. What I say to that is every now and then even a blind dog finds a bone.. Meaning while you may be able to beat it once, I know that these plays are way overdone and as swampee said above, with the right shifting/hot routes/user control , they turn into straight AI abuse.( and it is a very fine line).

So anotherwards whomever chooses to play me they know how I feel and how I will be judgeing the use of them.

[bigred]

Well I m getting the impression that there will no restrictions on using these new features any of them.
So in moderation is gonna be the key, but I will tell you right now that depending on how you use the feature if used will determine a lot of scores....

For instance if you use jump the snap against me, this is only against me now.. over 65% of the game, or every big 3rd down ... etc etc.. you get the jest, I will dock you a point.. Just because I believe the feature is overdone.

Secondly if you use the guess left, right, middle when playing me, and shift anyone or i end up seeing the guy your using shoot the gap, even though you guess the wrong direction or I m actually passing. Then that is instant 1s across the board. (furthermore if the feature is used excessively over 50% of every run play I call then I docking a point, no one is that damn predictable- at least Im not.)
I have voiced over and over how it is so easy to abuse the ai with this feature and how I feel about it, I will not accept oh I didnt know.
Other then that you can use all the other features as your heart is content and I wont care. (Because personal opinion agian - they have more balanced risk / reward results on them)

But I think those features more then anything are the ones that you are gonna have to worry about, and judge your usage of them toward the oppenents you are playing ..
Now everyone knows how I feel about them, I m done voiceing my opinion on these features particular those two, because it falls on deft ears, and everyone claims they are so easy to counter blah blah blah. What I say to that is every now and then even a blind dog finds a bone.. Meaning while you may be able to beat it once, I know that these plays are way overdone and as swampee said above, with the right shifting/hot routes/user control , they turn into straight AI abuse.( and it is a very fine line).

So anotherwards whomever chooses to play me they know how I feel and how I will be judgeing the use of them.

+1

[kdog36]

For someone that is not very good at this game overall needs any break one can get.
I am using it every chance I get end of story.
I am cautious enough as it is with this coaches report stuff.
I will more that likely lose most of my games but I am using it nonetheless.

No other rules have stopped guys from using gimmicks on that fine line so why would one
stop anyone now? mature or not mature doesn't matter.

[shel311]

I am using it every chance I get end of story.

No other rules have stopped guys from using gimmicks on that fine line so why would one
stop anyone now? mature or not mature doesn't matter.

1. Moderation

2. That post isn't exactly in line with the NDL Spirit. You're insinuating that you'll try to win at all costs. That may not be what you mean, but that is what it seems like you're saying here.

[kdog36]

you are right I do not mean that I win at all cost
Obviously looking at my record shows that and you have played me
I mean I am using that stuff because its there.

I honestly may not use it because it gets me in trouble more than not
But I am saying that I will attempt to use it once I learn more when to use it
If that means lower coaching scores then oh well

Plus its 5:00 and I have been up all night reading this thread

[shel311]

and you have played me

I know, we've played tons of times, and you're as straight as they come. I just dont want your post to be misinterpreted with it written as it is.

[kdog36]

appreciate the compliment

[swampee]

Good to hear from ya Swampee.

Great to hear from you and by the way congrats on getting marriage.

[swampee]

You know what is the most retarded thing about this feature. It takes away all power from the offense. Isnt my offensive line committed to run blocking, isnt my fullback committed to picking up the linebacker. Just because you commit to stopping the run in the middle doesnt mean I cant run in the middle. It takes talent and skill out of the equation. This is what drives me nuts.
Finally EA makes some serious progress in this nextgen game but their going to kill it with their bullsh#t. Im the biggest EA basher ever and Ill admit this is by far their best effort on the ps3. Now saying that why screw up their good work on gameplay by getting cute.
Season showdown is gay
New camera view with no other option is gay(even better is the reason they give why there is only one camera view)
new commit feature is gay
New strategy thing for the most part is gay
not being able to strafe before the play because they have to zoom out for no reason with l2 is gay
no being able to reassign x in the defensive controls because they assigned it to the lamest feature ever in defensive assist is gay.
All these things make a good game annoying to play.

Congrats on the improvement EA but please please stop with the gimmicks and new features they suck.
rant over

[ReignOnU]

I think we've got a few issues that are complicating things here and I'm hoping that people aren't taking them to the extreme, as they say.

It concerns me that 6' would be so bold as to drop all 1s on someone if they played a guess the run and a CPU controlled player got through while he was passing, 1 time. That's ridiculous. Period.

It concerns me that someone is willing to use an overdone feature on every play, just because the feature is there.

Why is it so hard for people to just be open minded and fair?

[kdog36]

so you are going to have a problem with the ones that try and strip the ball every freakin play also?

[walker213]

I don't understand why people are acting like this feature is unstoppable? I've played several people who have used this constantly and it is not hard to beat. Do pre-snap adjustments with your offensive line, and if he guesses wrong - he's screwed 90% of the time. I called a PA-pass when he committed to the run = deep touchdown pass. I did a counter right against a run commit left = 40 yard run. I don't understand all the talk about this, but I guess it doesn't matter anyway because I wouldn't wanna get burnt on guessing what my opponent will do anyway.

[Hoos]

I rarely use the feature, except I will commit to the pass. I just figure that If I can't beat you man up then I don't want the win. If I think you are running then I will shift my LBs accordingly and go control a player to that side of the field. Guessing the run and watching a bunch of lineman break thru just doesn't do it for me. There is no sense of accomplishment there.

[ReignOnU]

so you are going to have a problem with the ones that try and strip the ball every freakin play also?

Not sure if this was directed to me or not, but I'll bite anyway because I'm bored at work. I don't think this feature is overdone. You'll rack up quite a few facemasking penalties if you leave it on. Plus, it's hard counter of protecting the ball is equally effective. You'll know after 1-2 plays if this is selected by the defense and is easily adjusted for. If you're down by a score with a minute to go, I fully expect this to be on.

[fsupenguin]

so you are going to have a problem with the ones that try and strip the ball every freakin play also?

Not sure if this was directed to me or not, but I'll bite anyway because I'm bored at work. I don't think this feature is overdone. You'll rack up quite a few facemasking penalties if you leave it on. Plus, it's hard counter of protecting the ball is equally effective. You'll know after 1-2 plays if this is selected by the defense and is easily adjusted for. If you're down by a score with a minute to go, I fully expect this to be on.

That is the point to it, isn't it? I mean any time you go for a big play there is that chance it could backfire, and this is all these things are. Abuse of these should only be a concern if you are playing lobby games lol. You need to talk to your opponents before and after the games, get feedback then or even during the game. Learn to use the features, stop blowing up about all the negative things that can come with them and understand how they can be useful in the right situations.

[ReignOnU]

so you are going to have a problem with the ones that try and strip the ball every freakin play also?

Not sure if this was directed to me or not, but I'll bite anyway because I'm bored at work. I don't think this feature is overdone. You'll rack up quite a few facemasking penalties if you leave it on. Plus, it's hard counter of protecting the ball is equally effective. You'll know after 1-2 plays if this is selected by the defense and is easily adjusted for. If you're down by a score with a minute to go, I fully expect this to be on.

That is the point to it, isn't it? I mean any time you go for a big play there is that chance it could backfire, and this is all these things are. Abuse of these should only be a concern if you are playing lobby games lol. You need to talk to your opponents before and after the games, get feedback then or even during the game. Learn to use the features, stop blowing up about all the negative things that can come with them and understand how they can be useful in the right situations.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I still try to avoid the guess the run, because it does seem a bit too effective to me. (admittedly, I've hit it a few times out of repetition from logging over 20 ranked games while messing around with it... I'll try to break that habit.)

So really you should just ask yourself, does what I'm doing apply to this situation? Use it as it's meant to be used.

[6ftdeep]

please read my post carefully before commenting on it, I gave only one instance where I would give 1's, and otherwise stated overuse of the feature I would dock.. Please read the post carefully.

[VeniVediV1ci]

please read my post carefully before commenting on it, I gave only one instance where I would give 1's, and otherwise stated overuse of the feature I would dock.. Please read the post carefully.

don't pretend like everyone's going to read your post. A) It's long and B) you're not an admin so it's not like your post is on a god-like level where all need to read it.

...i did play someone who run guessed every play last night and I won handily because once i realized it it was easy just to go the opposite way and get big runs. I will say that if you're run guessing you should expect people to "bounce" (runs outside even if they're going inside) because that's the only way to beat it.

...i fucking hate the camera angle because it's IMPOSSIBLE to tackle a scrambling QB. I'm now sticking with safeties because that way I won't get screwed by missing a QB who's running for a first down because it's literally impossible to see and do correctly

[ReignOnU]

please read my post carefully before commenting on it, I gave only one instance where I would give 1's, and otherwise stated overuse of the feature I would dock.. Please read the post carefully.

"Secondly if you use the guess left, right, middle when playing me, and shift anyone or i end up seeing the guy your using shoot the gap, even though you guess the wrong direction or I m actually passing. Then that is instant 1s across the board."

I guess left. I play the DT. You slide protect right. I slip the gap. You are passing. I get instant 1s. What did I miss about this?