Heisman vs AA (yes, we are going to TRY to discuss)

[bigred]

just played nasty and lost 42-28 on aa (7 mins)

game was fun as hell

he ran 49 plays ( 24rushes,25 passes ) 322 total yards

i ran 46 plays (27/19 ) 300 total yards

[fsupenguin]

I still am thinking AA after a few more games of each. Lesser teams should get roaster from time to time by better teams, and the defenses of good teams still play rather well on AA. On AA the lesser teams will give up a lot more points for sure, but at least they will be able to score and have a fighting chance, on Heisman those strong defenses will pitching shutouts.

[6ftdeep]

Don't they usually pitch shutouts till the backups come in. And how big of a difference are we talking here between teams. When we are saying omg such and such team will not score or what have you.

[6ftdeep]

Don't they usually pitch shutouts till the backups come in. And how big of a difference are we talking here between teams. When we are saying omg such and such team will not score or what have you.

im a huge heisman fan, but lets be serious here, if you're constantly getting blanked then you're not gonna want to play.

i remember when i came in this league, the thing they kept telling us was that the guys with the lesser teams are the backbone of this league. and if they have more fun playing on AA, then we should go with AA. i understand wanting to be elite and what not but when it comes down to it that statement should end the convo.

couple that with what Peay said, about the farm being "meh" and it seems like a pretty easy answer. how do we keep going with the least amount of turnover until we can replenish the farm.

i'd be happy with Heisman, tougher game, and i love being challenged in football. but overall, i think AA might be the best for the future of the league.

well i didn't really mean it in a matter of being elite. I just meant if I play Florida with FAU, shouldn't I expect to get my ass whooped and if I m lucky get max 10 points while they more then likely score 35 pts more then me. I actually don't even plan on taking an elite team. I just feel it is too early to really be so firm on AA stance, and so against the idea that we will all gradually improve, where big bad Heisman isn't found to be that difficult, or at least not as unplayable difficult as some currently find it. That is all .

[Shiftdnb]

I have to agree with 6ft's statement. This is always an issue at the beginning of every season. I think a lot of people didn't play as long with NCAA 10 and are out of practice as well as just getting used to a new game.

[6ftdeep]

And another pro to going with Heisman is this.. You know how we worry about how much someone uses pass commit or run commit.. On Heisman you don't them in your defense. And it would be easy to just say don't use them, and not have to worry about different ideas of moderation on their uses.

On AA I m more then positive, people are going to want to have these features available to them. Opening up the questions of varying opinions of moderation.

[shel311]

Poor 6er.

[buckeye76]

i think AA might be the best for the league.

+1

[texasfan4444]

Don't they usually pitch shutouts till the backups come in. And how big of a difference are we talking here between teams. When we are saying omg such and such team will not score or what have you.

im a huge heisman fan, but lets be serious here, if you're constantly getting blanked then you're not gonna want to play.

i remember when i came in this league, the thing they kept telling us was that the guys with the lesser teams are the backbone of this league. and if they have more fun playing on AA, then we should go with AA. i understand wanting to be elite and what not but when it comes down to it that statement should end the convo.

couple that with what Peay said, about the farm being "meh" and it seems like a pretty easy answer. how do we keep going with the least amount of turnover until we can replenish the farm.

i'd be happy with Heisman, tougher game, and i love being challenged in football. but overall, i think AA might be the best for the future of the league.

Im for heisman as well, but this is 100% true. Thanks for bringing it back up again becasue we all need to keep that in mind. Perhaps after the first season when we are all used to the game it may make sense to move to heisman if we see elevated stats and insane game results. But as much as I hate to say it. Fucking for the betterment of hte league I/we need to consider the AA angle more seriously.

[DRiccio21]

i dont know how much more serious we can take it, its about 80/20 in terms of AA over Heisman

i think the only question left is 6 or 7 min

my vote is 7

[shel311]

i dont know how much more serious we can take it, its about 80/20 in terms of AA over Heisman

i think the only question left is 6 or 7 min

my vote is 7

I think the 7 min crowd is probably just as one-sided as the AA crowd, 80/20 ish.

Judging from this thread, I'd say 7 min AA is almost a stone cold lock at this point.

[kdog36]

I played 7 min AA against Bigmike and felt it was LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNGGGGG

I like AA and can live with 7 minutes.

[walker213]

I'm with AA at least for season one. It's nicer having a team that's a c at least be able to run off some big plays once in a while Which is more realistic since in college football even bad teams that can rise to the occasion and put up some big plays against big time programs.

Quack

Wait till you see how easy it is for big time teams to just run streaks pass lesser teams all game long.

[ajalves]

Wait till you see how easy it is for big time teams to just run streaks pass lesser teams all game long.

moderation...

the flip is how impossible it will be for lesser teams to complete much of anything with average Qbs on heisman

[walker213]

Wait till you see how easy it is for big time teams to just run streaks pass lesser teams all game long.

moderation...

the flip is how impossible it will be for lesser teams to complete much of anything with average Qbs on heisman

That could be true, but maybe it's just me to think that offense should be much harder than defense in the game.

[cdub21]

christ its a game, this is suppose to be fun. im probably only gunna play my 36-40 games and i would much rather lose 14-35 every game than 3-14

[6ftdeep]

Wait till you see how easy it is for big time teams to just run streaks pass lesser teams all game long.

moderation...

the flip is how impossible it will be for lesser teams to complete much of anything with average Qbs on heisman

That could be true, but maybe it's just me to think that offense should be much harder than defense in the game.

It is not impossible to complete passes with lesser qbs, If they are scrambling qbs with horrid passing attributes yes it is tougher, but that is why those teams run the ball more normally. But I ve used avg qbs on D teams and passed fairly well on other d to c teams. I have not tried a D team or said avg qb against any team rated over a c+ . But I awesome that my stats would suffer mostly cause my line sucks. lol

I only ask they we hold off on making this call of level difficulty up until after teams have been drafted. And give time for more games to be played. And to please don't have such a firm stance on AA and still play games on Heisman as well, and not get so frustrated every time something goes against you, and keep an open mind.

I still believe that we are just assuming we should be able to throw passes and complete the same stuff the same way in the pass, and it is not that way. This game does force you to make good decisions, and occasionally still gets on a good decision too.

[shel311]

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[BIGmike]

Getting a stop on defense while on AA is like hitting the lottery. With that said, the game is still fun on AA and every game has been very close.

[6ftdeep]

It is not a white flag, it is a nice way of asking everyone to have more of an open mind toward the other level. Which I feel is awesome. And feels more sim, and overall realistic then AA, which feels well like a video game.