New Massey Rankings Are Up
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New Massey Rankings Are Up
I'm sure a lot of people know this already, but for some reason I didn't realize it.
It's pretty sweet that you can go back to any season you've been in the league and see the scores from that season. So for the few that didn't know that, check it out. Pretty interesting stuff I think.
It's pretty sweet that you can go back to any season you've been in the league and see the scores from that season. So for the few that didn't know that, check it out. Pretty interesting stuff I think.
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Re: Massey Rankings
It doesn't have the results from last season? Or am I missing something?
XII: Fresno State 12-1 (8-0)
XIII: South Carolina 11-2 (7-1)
XIV: Bowling Green 13-1 (9-0)
XV: Georgia 14-0 (9-0)
XVI: Miami-FL 12-2 (8-1)
XVII: Miami-FL 10-3 (6-3)
XVIII: Miami-FL 13-1 (8-1)
XIX: Southern Cal 12-1 (9-0)
XX: Southern Cal 13-0 (9-0)
XIII: South Carolina 11-2 (7-1)
XIV: Bowling Green 13-1 (9-0)
XV: Georgia 14-0 (9-0)
XVI: Miami-FL 12-2 (8-1)
XVII: Miami-FL 10-3 (6-3)
XVIII: Miami-FL 13-1 (8-1)
XIX: Southern Cal 12-1 (9-0)
XX: Southern Cal 13-0 (9-0)
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I'm patiently awaiting the next update.
We need to start a new thread now, for the once beatens, lol. I think we're at 14 or something.
We need to start a new thread now, for the once beatens, lol. I think we're at 14 or something.
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Well here is my countdown. Outside of these teams, no one loss teams will make it.
There are over 10+ 1-loss teams, but only 4 have a realistic shot at playing for a Championship if they run the table. Here are the four:
1. Mississippi St. (11-1) - The winner of the Florida/Mississippi St. game is in.
2. Florida (11-1) - See above.
3. USC (7-1) - Has three wins against teams above .500, Washington (4-1), Washington St. (7-3), and UCLA (8-1). No conference championship, toughest game left appears to be Arizona.
4. Virginia (11-1) - Just two wins against team above .500, Georgia Tech (9-3) and Miami (9-2). Will have to knock off either, Clemson, FSU or NC State. If I had to predict, it'll be Clemson.
If both USC and Virginia lose a 2nd game.....I don't even want to make a prediction on who will make it in.
There are a few other one loss teams (Washington, UCLA, etc....but for a few diff't reasons I didn't include them).
There are over 10+ 1-loss teams, but only 4 have a realistic shot at playing for a Championship if they run the table. Here are the four:
1. Mississippi St. (11-1) - The winner of the Florida/Mississippi St. game is in.
2. Florida (11-1) - See above.
3. USC (7-1) - Has three wins against teams above .500, Washington (4-1), Washington St. (7-3), and UCLA (8-1). No conference championship, toughest game left appears to be Arizona.
4. Virginia (11-1) - Just two wins against team above .500, Georgia Tech (9-3) and Miami (9-2). Will have to knock off either, Clemson, FSU or NC State. If I had to predict, it'll be Clemson.
If both USC and Virginia lose a 2nd game.....I don't even want to make a prediction on who will make it in.
There are a few other one loss teams (Washington, UCLA, etc....but for a few diff't reasons I didn't include them).



Re: Massey Rankings
The view from the entire league won't be available until this season is over and we submit the data to Ken for next season. It is caused by the way he archives shit.walker213 wrote:It doesn't have the results from last season? Or am I missing something?
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Could be real interesting to see how these factor in to picking the National Championship game, i'm just not sure how much weight the ratings get.



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huskerskev84 wrote:Could be real interesting to see how these factor in to picking the National Championship game, i'm just not sure how much weight the ratings get.
it varies
i use to think bcs polls were easy
i thought you take the ranking of the 3 components (media, coaches and computer)...average it out and voila! (wrong)
the formula is actually based on how many votes out of 1st place they get
so if 100 people vote, the most a team can get is 2500 points (100X25)
if a team gets 2475 THAT number is then divided by then most they can get (2500) to get their component rating..which is what goes into the formula
consequently, we have to do the same to the computer portion so that 1 is the standard or as close to as possible
the computer portion is based on masseys raankings but 1st dividedinto parts..overall ranking based on massey then Stregth of Schedule based on massey. those are then averaged out and the we take the derivitive based on the standard of 1
that plus the media and coaches component plus the win/loss points gives us the final
lol, so to kinda answer question, theoritcally massey accounts for approximately 1/3 of the bcs formula...not counting the losses portion
if there are 2 teams that are undefated and are the overwhelming #1 and #2 in the media and coaches...it wont matter much what the computers say
BUT
in the case like this year where there will/may be multiple 1 loss teams vying....it in essence will be kinda the tiebreaker if things are close...again though..if there is an overwhelming #1 and #2 via the human polls, it wont swing those results

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Nole4real wrote:huskerskev84 wrote:Could be real interesting to see how these factor in to picking the National Championship game, i'm just not sure how much weight the ratings get.
it varies
i use to think bcs polls were easy
i thought you take the ranking of the 3 components (media, coaches and computer)...average it out and voila! (wrong)
the formula is actually based on how many votes out of 1st place they get
so if 100 people vote, the most a team can get is 2500 points (100X25)
if a team gets 2475 THAT number is then divided by then most they can get (2500) to get their component rating..which is what goes into the formula
consequently, we have to do the same to the computer portion so that 1 is the standard or as close to as possible
the computer portion is based on masseys raankings but 1st dividedinto parts..overall ranking based on massey then Stregth of Schedule based on massey. those are then averaged out and the we take the derivitive based on the standard of 1
that plus the media and coaches component plus the win/loss points gives us the final
lol, so to kinda answer question, theoritcally massey accounts for approximately 1/3 of the bcs formula...not counting the losses portion
if there are 2 teams that are undefated and are the overwhelming #1 and #2 in the media and coaches...it wont matter much what the computers say
BUT
in the case like this year where there will/may be multiple 1 loss teams vying....it in essence will be kinda the tiebreaker if things are close...again though..if there is an overwhelming #1 and #2 via the human polls, it wont swing those results


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Re: New Massey Rankings Are Up
Wow, that was fun
UF/Miss State Winner
vs
USC
Pretty simple.

UF/Miss State Winner
vs
USC
Pretty simple.
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Cnasty wrote:Wow, that was fun![]()
UF/Miss State Winner
vs
USC
Pretty simple.
I'll do my best to make sure that won't happen as I have possibly my last 2 games to play today, lol.
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Nole Jr. in the house!!shel311 wrote:I'll do my best to make sure that won't happen as I have possibly my last 2 games to play today, lol.

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Cnasty wrote:Nole Jr. in the house!!shel311 wrote:I'll do my best to make sure that won't happen as I have possibly my last 2 games to play today, lol.
Whatchoo talkin bout willis??!!!
THIS IS THE SEASON OF NOLE PART II!!!!!!

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Massey Updated
How many times have I said that Massey is a brilliant guy!!!
How many times have I said that Massey is a brilliant guy!!!

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I agree, the man knows his shitshel311 wrote:Massey Updated
How many times have I said that Massey is a brilliant guy!!!





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#2 schedule in the nation.
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#14 in schedule strength
I guess I shouldn't feel too bad about my losses at the end of the season, but man, I lost 3 heart breakers. Weasel and Talented just whooped me, so not much to talk about there.
I guess I shouldn't feel too bad about my losses at the end of the season, but man, I lost 3 heart breakers. Weasel and Talented just whooped me, so not much to talk about there.

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Yea we should just drop the polls completely. He had Memphis jumping from 35 to 20...and a Power rating of 11. Not sure why the power rating would be so high, but i'll take it.



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you have the #2 scoring offensehuskerskev84 wrote:Yea we should just drop the polls completely. He had Memphis jumping from 35 to 20...and a Power rating of 11. Not sure why the power rating would be so high, but i'll take it.
everyone also needs to consider with polls, sometimes its not all a team "jumping" but other teams just "falling" below others as schedules/games are played

