Pistol Offense

[vicktim7]

anyone use this, and is it still frowned upon for some reason? it seems like on the last version guys complained about it. just curious.


if you used it, what say you?

[ChampDizzle]

to each its own, I never used it so have no clue about it.

[BIGmike]

I don't recall anyone complaining about the pistol offense, but who knows.

[vicktim7]

I don't recall anyone complaining about the pistol offense, but who knows.

i may be completely mistaken (my wife would guarantee it), and if it was, it was several seasons ago, i guess. these things all run together. it honestly shocks me to see us on season 17. can't believe we've been doing this for so long.

[walker213]

I don't see it often, but I would have no complaints with it. It's ran often in college football, so it is realistic and therefore I don't understand how people could complain about it. This brings me to a question though: Is running a spread offense frowned upon?

[Crowes]

It doesn't matter if its run in real life or not. We are playing a video game not a game in real life so I've never understood the statement "they run it in real life". As long as you mix it up, use moderation, and are not taking advantage of any AI flaws intentionally run any offense your heart desires.

[vicktim7]

I don't see it often, but I would have no complaints with it. It's ran often in college football, so it is realistic and therefore I don't understand how people could complain about it. This brings me to a question though: Is running a spread offense frowned upon?

i ran it at baylor 2 seasons ago, and like crowes said, mix it up, and you'll be fine. different formations, routes, mix in the run, etc.

[WJ5811]

I don't recall anyone complaining about the pistol offense, but who knows.

i may be completely mistaken (my wife would guarantee it), and if it was, it was several seasons ago, i guess. these things all run together. it honestly shocks me to see us on season 17. can't believe we've been doing this for so long.

I dont remember anyone complaining about it either. I have tried it before in past seasons. I ran it one season at LSU awhile ago...maybe the first season they included it in the game.

Anyway, I found that you need good TE's because they are used heavy in the Pistol Sets and I found it hard to run from alot of the sets especially because the runs are limited. Also if you get a high snap the defense is usually right on you. I went away from it deciding that I wasnt scoring very much.

Only other problem with it is alot of the forms look the same and alot of the plays are the same just in diff sets but since the sets look alot alike it could appear to be the same stuff. So even if you mix it up it may come across that you are not.

This brings me to a question though: Is running a spread offense frowned upon?

I have found it to be on coaching reports if you dont run much from it. Also again with the spread alot of the runs are the same and come across as though you run the same play. I think its pretty much HB sweep, HB draw and option plays from the spread.

[Hoos]

Only other problem with it is alot of the forms look the same and alot of the plays are the same just in diff sets but since the sets look alot alike it could appear to be the same stuff. So even if you mix it up it may come across that you are not.

That is pretty much every SG formation in this game. I have tons of plays, out of different sets, that the action is almost identical.

[WJ5811]

Only other problem with it is alot of the forms look the same and alot of the plays are the same just in diff sets but since the sets look alot alike it could appear to be the same stuff. So even if you mix it up it may come across that you are not.

That is pretty much every SG formation in this game. I have tons of plays, out of different sets, that the action is almost identical.

Yes...thats why I had to leave the spread behind after Season 14

[shel311]

This brings me to a question though: Is running a spread offense frowned upon?

Unfortunately it is by too many, and if you one ran it successfully, I'd bet they'd probably get a low reports, probably, or at least have a better chance of getting a lower report.

It's silly, especially considering how hard it is to run from the spread in this game.

[6ftdeep]

I say run what you want, how you want to run it. We all know what is allowed and what is not. We know if we are taking advantage of flaws are not. If you know in all honesty that you are running your offense correctly, mixing up playcalling rather it be pass heavy or run heavy (focus being more play variety) then run it. If your oppenent is gonna complain about something they are gonna complain.

And the spread is gonna garner complaints no matter how you run it. I know I ran the air raid offense this past season.. Which includes a lot of drags, crossing routes and slants.. And a lot of similar looking plays from different but similar sets.. While some found no problem at all with others did. .. So I say run what you want, as long as you can honestly say you are running it according to league rules and not tip toeing the boarderline.

[WJ5811]

I say run what you want, how you want to run it. We all know what is allowed and what is not. We know if we are taking advantage of flaws are not. If you know in all honesty that you are running your offense correctly, mixing up playcalling rather it be pass heavy or run heavy (focus being more play variety) then run it. If your oppenent is gonna complain about something they are gonna complain.

And the spread is gonna garner complaints no matter how you run it. I know I ran the air raid offense this past season.. Which includes a lot of drags, crossing routes and slants.. And a lot of similar looking plays from different but similar sets.. While some found no problem at all with others did. .. So I say run what you want, as long as you can honestly say you are running it according to league rules and not tip toeing the boarderline.

Well said !

[walker213]

It doesn't matter if its run in real life or not. We are playing a video game not a game in real life so I've never understood the statement "they run it in real life". As long as you mix it up, use moderation, and are not taking advantage of any AI flaws intentionally run any offense your heart desires.

Well, it's obviously realistic to run it in the game if it's common in real life, correct? I'm just asking because I've heard people complain if a team runs a majority of their plays from shotgun, so I just thought I'd confirm that.

[shel311]

Walker, I think the general NDL concensus for the most part is that it's no problem.

I know some guys dont like flexbone or options or a lot of spread option type offenses for whatever reason, agree or disagree.

But I don't think anyone has any problems with the pistol or thinks it creates any unfair advantages like some do with the aforementioned styles of offense.

[Matt90210]

It depends. So, you used the pistol offense, but did you win or lose the game? Assume coaches report accordingly.

[shel311]

It depends. So, you used the pistol offense, but did you win or lose the game? Assume coaches report accordingly.

Well, Walker's career record is like 3000 wins and 1 loss, so he's screwed.

[BlackRain]

Vicktim7, no problems with the Pistol formations as your game is totally clean and legit. I know you will not have any complaints at all due to your straight play. Some people will complain if they do not like the formation, even if you are doing different plays from that formation. You cannot win for some odd reason, as the opponent keeps throwing interceptions.......something like four or five interceptions and your up by three touchdowns. They are going to be pissed no matter what and scrutinize everything you do if they are a sore loser. Not anything to do with the coaches I recently played, but you cannot win in the coaches reports with a coach who cannot take a loss...........

[Cnasty]

I dont see a problem with it at all but every coach has a different opinion of what they think is "right" and "wrong".

I got my first look at Ole Miss and they are a fun squad. I could see throwing the ball 50 times a game with them but can also get the running game going.

I also started messing with the "guess pass" since I didnt use it at all after game 2 or 3 last year and my opponents were and I see the difference it makes...still not sure if Im going down that road.

[dakshdar]

Pistol is just a playbook (or a formation in some playbooks). You still have lots of formations to use.

Now, if you just run one formation from a playbook over and over again, then you're in trouble (with most people I'd think).

But if you run the pistol playbook and run 50 plays a game from 8 different formations I wouldn't worry about much.