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Bama you didnt even finish your season. Explain how you should keep your team.
And Doc keep your points...Im doing just fine thank you.
And Doc keep your points...Im doing just fine thank you.

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AGAIN.
Win goals are 1/5th of points.
40% is participation.
40% is coaches reports.
BFIVL's pretty much guaranteed 80% right off the bat.
I'm not sure how many times i have to bring up the "20%" that you guys are completely ignoring.
And you guys are getting WAY too caught up in win goals and keeping teams and COMPLETELY losing sight of what the NDL is all about.
And the constant bitching and whining is bringing the league down as a whole.
Win goals are 1/5th of points.
40% is participation.
40% is coaches reports.
BFIVL's pretty much guaranteed 80% right off the bat.
I'm not sure how many times i have to bring up the "20%" that you guys are completely ignoring.
And you guys are getting WAY too caught up in win goals and keeping teams and COMPLETELY losing sight of what the NDL is all about.
And the constant bitching and whining is bringing the league down as a whole.
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Ank wrote:Bama you didnt even finish your season. Explain how you should keep your team.
And Doc keep your points...Im doing just fine thank you.
LOL ANK, all i got for ya bro. I finished my season wit h2 sims win and 2 sim losses. Not much more I can do. You must not know what we grade our season success on any more and what keeps teams nowadays. 40-40-20.


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I've brought up the 40/40/20 i think 3 times now and Ank and everyone else has ignored it every single time.BFiVL wrote:Ank wrote:Bama you didnt even finish your season. Explain how you should keep your team.
And Doc keep your points...Im doing just fine thank you.
LOL ANK, all i got for ya bro. I finished my season wit h2 sims win and 2 sim losses. Not much more I can do. You must not know what we grade our season success on any more and what keeps teams nowadays. 40-40-20.
It is quite obvious that some don't really think like 40/40/20, and it is obvious that they put win goals about 80% and participation and coaches reports at about 10% each judging by the posts and how they only wanna talk about win goals.
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Hart, are you fucking kidding? That's exactly what happens. You get +3 for being a CC, which is shown nowhere and told to no one. I remember being told to hush about the extra point I got for updating the poll a few seasons ago...Hart4Heisman wrote:its funny... people think we become CCs and automatically get the 3 points...
fuck me... the ignorance of some people is amazing
but this is exactly what we need. The whole commish process when it's turned over from one person to another depending on who pays for the league means that it should be transparent and not just done behind closed doors like it has been.
And don't even try to say this hasn't been brought up before, Shel. Everytime it is the entire CC panel comes up and says how hard of a job it is




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This thread should just be locked because no matter what is said, they will whine about things and never address the 40/40/20 system for whatever reason.
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Nepotism is what is bringing this league down as a whole. We are all equal in this league and should be since JeffMo left.shel311 wrote:And the constant bitching and whining is bringing the league down as a whole.
In case you need a solution, daw's looked good without me looking at it completely. If i could pose a system it would be to let the top 12 (12 conferences?) CR scores get to be CC's for the next season. It sucks that people need points to write-up the conference they're commishing (and it only lasts for about 4 weeks), so just do away with all of it because it just keeps CC's getting the good teams and that's far from fair.
Keep the name-calling going, you sure know how to conduct an argument like an adult. So i've been called a "bitch ass," a "baby," and an "ass hole" by our outstanding administration.



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shel311 wrote:This thread should just be locked because no matter what is said, they will whine about things and never address the 40/40/20 system for whatever reason.












Censorship always solves everything.
You are hilarious.

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I'm surprised this thread hasnt been locked about 3 pages ago. Its been interesting to read during the comercials though.....shel311 wrote:This thread should just be locked because no matter what is said, they will whine about things and never address the 40/40/20 system for whatever reason.
I never knew that I got points for being a Farm ghost. That kicks ass for having to play quite a few lobby games



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Yeah I can see both sides of a coin, but it has been this way forever.. It is actually pretty easy to keep an A- team.
Like they say you get 80 points for coaches and perticipation.. The easiest is participation 40 points.
Then you have coaches reports which is another 40. Now myself I feel I should never score less then all 5s but many dont like how much I pass or blitz or what have you... So I normally avg a 90 ..
But less say for the sake of argument you get a 100 .. You only have to get 50 points on season sucess, lets say you dont meet your win goal you loss 40 points,
but you still have away wins, rivarly, and if you beat someone ranked that is more points so you can still get aleast 50pts, which translate to 10 points of overall points.... congrats you have over 90 points which i believe is good enough to keep an a- team. This does not include bowl points if you get them, dynasty points.
Now if you score a 90 like I do... you have to get 14 points for season sucess which then in turn requires you to make win goal, but if you have dynasty points, that will usually save you.
Now A team or better, Is a little tougher but really not much, unless you dont get perfect coach reports..
Really if we want season sucess to mean a little more the 40-40-20 would need re addressing maybe 40 30 30 but we know that wont happen.. So this is the system that we have used and more then likely will continue to use.
And frankly I m weary a bit on uping season sucess.. cause we all know there are already guys who tip toe gameplay already.. But playing constantly in grey areas.. or playing it in key situations, and some just straight out abuse things that are harder to spot..
So overall I m good on the 40 40 20 .. i think
Like they say you get 80 points for coaches and perticipation.. The easiest is participation 40 points.
Then you have coaches reports which is another 40. Now myself I feel I should never score less then all 5s but many dont like how much I pass or blitz or what have you... So I normally avg a 90 ..
But less say for the sake of argument you get a 100 .. You only have to get 50 points on season sucess, lets say you dont meet your win goal you loss 40 points,
but you still have away wins, rivarly, and if you beat someone ranked that is more points so you can still get aleast 50pts, which translate to 10 points of overall points.... congrats you have over 90 points which i believe is good enough to keep an a- team. This does not include bowl points if you get them, dynasty points.
Now if you score a 90 like I do... you have to get 14 points for season sucess which then in turn requires you to make win goal, but if you have dynasty points, that will usually save you.
Now A team or better, Is a little tougher but really not much, unless you dont get perfect coach reports..
Really if we want season sucess to mean a little more the 40-40-20 would need re addressing maybe 40 30 30 but we know that wont happen.. So this is the system that we have used and more then likely will continue to use.
And frankly I m weary a bit on uping season sucess.. cause we all know there are already guys who tip toe gameplay already.. But playing constantly in grey areas.. or playing it in key situations, and some just straight out abuse things that are harder to spot..
So overall I m good on the 40 40 20 .. i think
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If you're elected to be a CC you get 3 additional points.
Speak some english in your posts and people can see what you're saying because i'm NOT wrong about that.
Keep the name-calling going though guys, it's real mature.
Speak some english in your posts and people can see what you're saying because i'm NOT wrong about that.
Keep the name-calling going though guys, it's real mature.

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First i want to apologize to the CC's and mostly to Bama for discussing this on the boards. Shell's last post put me into prospective...Im 32 years old and arguing over a video game?
Damn I just told my 3 and 5 year old to quit arguing over Star Wars Legos on the PS2 and a light went off.
Shell I understand the 40/40/20.
I know 40 for your recaps and all the participation and 40 for game play coaches reports ect. I just think the 20 for the win goal is a little low.

Shell I understand the 40/40/20.
I know 40 for your recaps and all the participation and 40 for game play coaches reports ect. I just think the 20 for the win goal is a little low.

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1. Show me where i called you a name. Seriously, I want you to show me where I called you a name. This is just yet another example of you hating NDL Florida so much you see stuff that didn't happen. You've done this twice in 2 days now.VeniVediV1ci wrote:Nepotism is what is bringing this league down as a whole. We are all equal in this league and should be since JeffMo left.shel311 wrote:And the constant bitching and whining is bringing the league down as a whole.
In case you need a solution, daw's looked good without me looking at it completely. If i could pose a system it would be to let the top 12 (12 conferences?) CR scores get to be CC's for the next season. It sucks that people need points to write-up the conference they're commishing (and it only lasts for about 4 weeks), so just do away with all of it because it just keeps CC's getting the good teams and that's far from fair.
Keep the name-calling going, you sure know how to conduct an argument like an adult. So i've been called a "bitch ass," a "baby," and an "ass hole" by our outstanding administration.
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2. If we put it to a league vote, what is worse, nepotism or the whining/bitching, i bet it'd be 95% voting for the bitching, so you're wrong yet again and you know that's fact that you're one of the very few who have this nepotism conspiracy theory.
3. I said to lock the thread, not because of censorship, I CLEARLY explained because people ONLY wanna bitch about win goals and not lay it all out.
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i think Coaches Report should be worth 50 because that's incredibly important. put particip to 25% and season success to 25%
that should be the easiest 25% you can get for doing required work, but what really determines ur grade is the kind of player YOU are.
just my 2 cents.
that should be the easiest 25% you can get for doing required work, but what really determines ur grade is the kind of player YOU are.
just my 2 cents.
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You completely missing the point of that post and completely whiffing on everything else anyone from NDL posts and your conspiracy theories that you and maybe 1 or 2 other guys believe in, THAT'S hilarious.VeniVediV1ci wrote:shel311 wrote:This thread should just be locked because no matter what is said, they will whine about things and never address the 40/40/20 system for whatever reason.![]()
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Censorship always solves everything.
You are hilarious.
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LOL, good stuff Ank.Ank wrote:Shell's last post put me into prospective...Im 32 years old and arguing over a video game?Damn I just told my 3 and 5 year old to quit arguing over Star Wars Legos on the PS2 and a light went off.
Now, if only others can see that as well.
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lock this shit. this just looks bad as a whole.
look like a bunch of nerds fighting at a magic convention
** vote 50/25/25 **
man im stoned
look like a bunch of nerds fighting at a magic convention


** vote 50/25/25 **

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Aside from your name-calling at the end, which has no place in this discussion, your statement "if u do fuck all.. you get fuck all" doesn't make any sense.Hart4Heisman wrote:buddy... u dont just get the 3 points.... if u do fuck all.. you get fuck all. you need to work to earn the points you get..but there it is again... another ignorant post about something you dont really have any idea about..
people need to change their fucking tampons.... they all sound like a bunch of bleeding cunts
You get 3 points added to your final total for being a CC. That's what i said because that's how it is. So you can try to tell me I'm wrong, but no one has said that yet so I think i'm on to something

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I'm shocked you didn't call me a name in that post.shel311 wrote:You completely missing the point of that post and completely whiffing on everything else anyone from NDL posts and your conspiracy theories that you and maybe 1 or 2 other guys believe in, THAT'S hilarious.
...but make a new thread addressing 40-40-20. That's up to you. Locking a thread where answers are not only warranted but deserved is ludicrous.
I don't even know if arguing is going to make sense because all you're going to do is just tell me to stop whining or call me a name because you have no logical response to anything, or at least you're holding back for some reason I can't understand.

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Not if you don't do your duites as a commish, so he is correct if you do "fuck all" you get "fuck all" lol.VeniVediV1ci wrote:Aside from your name-calling at the end, which has no place in this discussion, your statement "if u do fuck all.. you get fuck all" doesn't make any sense.Hart4Heisman wrote:buddy... u dont just get the 3 points.... if u do fuck all.. you get fuck all. you need to work to earn the points you get..but there it is again... another ignorant post about something you dont really have any idea about..
people need to change their fucking tampons.... they all sound like a bunch of bleeding cunts
You get 3 points added to your final total for being a CC. That's what i said because that's how it is. So you can try to tell me I'm wrong, but no one has said that yet so I think i'm on to something
Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to show me where I called you a name like you said. You won't find it though, so don't bother looking. You keep feeding into your own NDL Florida conspiracy and hate and think shit happened that never does. That is like 2 or 3 times in the past 2 days, lol.