Big 10 has supposedly made it's initial offers

[LetsGoPeay]

And ... don't be surprised if the very first expansion move made by anybody is by the MWC ... sometime in the next few weeks.

Interesting. Inside info? Nevada, Fresno, or Boise to the MWC?

[trendon]

If this doesn't happen, I will be upset. I've done my reading and this is brilliant on nearly every front.

Athletically: Step up in football and basketball, the money sports. Volleyball would win 189 consecutive Big Ten games. Would this in any way impact baseball?

Education: One of the best schools in the Big XII would be dogshit in the Big Ten but you have the chance to improve.

Socially: Nebraska automatically becomes one of the big names - if not the biggest - in the conference, something they surrendered to the B12 South about eight years ago.

[Dolemitesooner]

Money is the only intensive really

You have lost your mind if you think Nebraska is some educational mecca. Its very middle of the road even in the Big 12

It would be in the bottom quarter of schools education wise in the big ten but you said it would be dog shit...lol

[TerpsMustDie]

May be a dumb question, but why leave the Big 12?

For being unable to win the Big 12 and it being easier to win the Big 10??

I think the Big 12 is more of an elite conference than the Big 10 as of late.

Weird move.

Way more money, and the Big 12 gives Texas a disproportionate amount of the cash. Big 12 is very vulnerable.

[trendon]

Money is the only intensive really

You have lost your mind if you think Nebraska is some educational mecca. LOL.

It would be in the bottom quarter of schools education wise in the big ten

Your reading comprehension indicates that your school isn't very good itself.

[DRiccio21]

biggest name in conference?

[Dolemitesooner]

biggest name in conference...lol

Trendon thinks too Highly of Nebraska

and Terps I am pretty sure Texas gets the same cut as the other schools

[TerpsMustDie]

4. Recruiting. No offense, but the B12 has loser guidelines to get recruits in. The BT has not allowed a project 40 kid in 5 years. They are still a big part of Oklahoma and other B12 classes. NU will have to conform to the BT recruiting guidelines.

I need that explained to me. Despite how much I love college ball and Nebraska, I don't "show up" until the Spring Game. Unless some kid from my home is being recruited (LOL!), I know shit about the guy, so I don't pay attention.

What is Project 40?

Project 40 is the name given to a loophole that allows schools to accept players that dont meet the minimum NCAA requirement for getting into school (grade point average on core classes and ACT or SAT score). The minimum requirements are based on a sliding scale, so you can get a very bad ACT and have a good GPA and get in, or vice versa.

A project 40 kid (also known as a bridge program) doesnt meet those guidelines so, he gets into school and has 1 year to stay eligible (cannot play) and get to stay on scholarship. Another way schools get around the min. guidelines is by having players take or retake their core classes through online correspondence courses. This artificially raises the GPA and lowers the ACT requirement.

Very few BT schools allow correspondence courses and those that do, are regulated by the BT. I dont think this has ever really been abused at NU like it has at OK, but you are always able to get one or two kids in that you really wanted that you normally wouldnt have.

The Big East banned props a few years ago. SEC still gets them, as does the Big 12. Not sure about the others. Some of WVU's best players were props, many of whom did well in school once they got in. Not sure what the hell Providence was thinking with that decision, as recruiting in the Big East is tough as it is.

[Dolemitesooner]

Money is the only intensive really

You have lost your mind if you think Nebraska is some educational mecca. LOL.

It would be in the bottom quarter of schools education wise in the big ten

Your reading comprehension indicates that your school isn't very good itself.

How is that.

Nebraska is not one of the better schools adedimicly in the Big 12

Baylor
Texas
Colorado
Mizzou
are all better

and Oklahoma
A&M
are just as good if not better

[DRiccio21]

From U.S. News and World Report:

1.University of Texas - Austin National ranking 47
2.Texas A&M National ranking 64
3.Baylor University National ranking 76
4.University of Colorado - Boulder National ranking 77

tied
5.Iowa State National ranking 89
University of Kansas National ranking 89
University of Nebraska - Lincoln National ranking 89

8.University of Missouri National ranking 96
9.University of Oklahoma National ranking 108
10.Kansas State National ranking 130
11.Oklahoma State Tier Three
12.Texas Tech Tier Three

[trendon]

They have above-average APR and have pushed out more Academic All-Americans than any school in the country.

[TerpsMustDie]

Pretty much the same way the ACC expansion went down. There were leaks well in advance that something was going on. That created a lot of speculation and public denials.

You can guarantee that there has been a lot of behind doors discussions. You usually don't publically make an offer of this magnitude unless you have already worked out the details and have the answer beforehand.

If the Big 10 expands, then the dominos are going to fall again. With the Big East weakened yet again, it might be time for the ACC to swoop in and expand all the way up the East Coast. I'd like to see Uconn, WVU, Pitt, and Syracuse added.

As would I. The conference would be solid in football, and would once again be the cream of the crop in basketball. As a bonus, the Catholic schools in the Big East would be relegated to secondary status. Win/win in my eyes.

[DRiccio21]

scratch that last list, that was 2009

here is 2010

Big 12
1 University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX 47 Longhorns
2 Texas A&M University–College Station College Station, TX 61 Aggies
3 University of Colorado–Boulder Boulder, CO 77 Buffaloes
4 Baylor University Waco, TX 80 Bears
5 Iowa State University Ames, IA 88 Cyclones
6 University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 96 Jayhawks
7 University of Nebraska–Lincoln Lincoln, NE 96 Cornhuskers
8 University of Missouri Columbia, MO 102 Tigers
9 University of Oklahoma Norman, OK 102 Sooners
10 Kansas State University Manhattan, KS Tier 3 Wildcats
11 Oklahoma State University Stillwater, OK Tier 3 Cowboys
12 Texas Tech University Lubbock, TX Tier 3 Red Raiders

Big 10
1 Northwestern University Evanston, IL 12 Wildcats
2 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 27 Wolverines
3 University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL 39 Fighting Illini
4 University of Wisconsin–Madison Madison, WI 39 Badgers
5 Pennsylvania State University–University Park University Park, PA 47 Nittany Lions
6 Ohio State University–Columbus Columbus, OH 53 Buckeyes
7 Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 61 Boilermakers
8 University of Minnesota–Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN 61 Golden Gophers
9 Indiana University–Bloomington Bloomington, IN 71 Hoosiers
10 Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 71 Spartans
11 University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 71 Hawkeyes

Big East

1 Villanova University Villanova, PA 1¹ Wildcats
2 Providence College Providence, RI 2¹ Friars
3 University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 20 Fighting Irish
4 Georgetown University Washington, DC 23 Hoyas
5 University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 56 Panthers
6 Syracuse University Syracuse, NY 58 Orange
7 Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey–New Brunswick Piscataway, NJ 66 Scarlet Knights
8 University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 66 Huskies
9 Marquette University Milwaukee, WI 84 Golden Eagles
10 DePaul University Chicago, IL Tier 3 Blue Demons
11 Seton Hall University South Orange, NJ Tier 3 Pirates
12 St. John's University Queens, NY Tier 3 Red Storm
13 University of Cincinnati Cincinnati, OH Tier 3 Bearcats
14 University of Louisville Louisville, KY Tier 3 Cardinals
15 University of South Florida Tampa, FL Tier 3 Bulls
16 West Virginia University Morgantown, WV Tier 3 Mountaineers

SEC
1 Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 17 Commodores
2 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 47 Gators
3 University of Georgia Athens, GA 58 Bulldogs
4 Auburn University Auburn University, AL 88 Tigers
5 University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, AL 96 Crimson Tide
6 University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 106 Volunteers
7 University of South Carolina Columbia, SC 110 Gamecocks
8 Louisiana State University–Baton Rouge Baton Rouge, LA 128 Tigers
9 University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 128 Razorbacks
10 University of Kentucky Lexington, KY 128 Wildcats
11 Mississippi State University Mississippi State, MS Tier 3 Bulldogs
12 University of Mississippi University, MS Tier 3 Rebels

[Dolemitesooner]

From U.S. News and World Report:

1.University of Texas - Austin National ranking 47
2.Texas A&M National ranking 64
3.Baylor University National ranking 76
4.University of Colorado - Boulder National ranking 77

tied
5.Iowa State National ranking 89
University of Kansas National ranking 89
University of Nebraska - Lincoln National ranking 89

8.University of Missouri National ranking 96
9.University of Oklahoma National ranking 108
10.Kansas State National ranking 130
11.Oklahoma State Tier Three
12.Texas Tech Tier Three

So....average

[TerpsMustDie]

Only reason the ACC would add teams is to replace any it loses.

Then, the ACC would look to replace what it lost by raiding the Big East again of any football playing schools, they would take USF for sure and whoever is left.

I doubt USF is even in the discussions at this point. They would likely be left holding the bag. Very little tradition, cash strapped athletic department, bad basketball to boot. The ACC and SEC would add to react to the Big 10, regardless of whether they lost a team. No one wants to be left behind in the super conference race.

[Dolemitesooner]

scratch that last list, that was 2009

here is 2010

1 University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX 47 Longhorns
2 Texas A&M University–College Station College Station, TX 61 Aggies
3 University of Colorado–Boulder Boulder, CO 77 Buffaloes
4 Baylor University Waco, TX 80 Bears
5 Iowa State University Ames, IA 88 Cyclones
6 University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 96 Jayhawks
7 University of Nebraska–Lincoln Lincoln, NE 96 Cornhuskers
8 University of Missouri Columbia, MO 102 Tigers
9 University of Oklahoma Norman, OK 102 Sooners
10 Kansas State University Manhattan, KS Tier 3 Wildcats
11 Oklahoma State University Stillwater, OK Tier 3 Cowboys
12 Texas Tech University Lubbock, TX Tier 3 Red Raiders

Thank you Riccio.

Trendon thinks WAY to much of Nebraska. Strange for a fellow from New York who has never been in the state. LOL

If Nebraska goes to the Big Ten it probably is in the best interest of the school, but to act like they are some elite school in the Big 12 is wrong.

They are terrible at every sport, average now at football and average academically. The big Ten must be hard pressed for schools

[trendon]

You make it sound like I said it was West Point.

[TerpsMustDie]

biggest name in conference...lol

Trendon thinks too Highly of Nebraska

and Terps I am pretty sure Texas gets the same cut as the other schools

Not from everything I've heard and read...Texas is the big cheese and rules that conference. It's hard to argue otherwise.

[DRiccio21]

i updated the rankings with every school in the Big12, Big 10, Big East, SEC

[DRiccio21]

You make it sound like I said it was West Point.

no, but you did say one of the best in the big12, lol

i still wanna know how you figure they'd be the biggest name in the conference