Auburn as 2004 National Champs??

[Dolemitesooner]

I would like to know what the NDL thinks about this.

Who wins between OU and auburn that season.

[beercop]

I would like to know what the NDL thinks about this.

Who wins between OU and auburn that season.

Barn

[shel311]

I think OU would beat Auburn.

I think USC would have beaten Auburn, but the 2002 Miami-Ohio St game showed up, we really just don't know what would have happened.

[autiger730]

"If the media gets this right in the coming weeks, we should accept their apology and be proud. We should claim and celebrate this, is it so bad to finally be recognized? Let’s make one of the four organizations feel good about making this right. Either way not accepting it would be an insult to that organization and other organizations would see that…… and in the long run it would not be the classy or smart move for Auburn."

That's really the part that stuck out to me. If they give it to us and we don't acknowledge it, it only serves to make us look bad.

And obviously I think Auburn wins over Oklahoma.

[shel311]

That organization that wants to give there title to Auburn, did they have Auburn ranked ahead of Oklahoma before the bowl games?

If not, the logic doesn't follow, IMO.

[autiger730]

OU doesn't get the loss wiped off even though USC loses the win. That is why no one is considering giving it to them.

[shel311]

OU doesn't get the loss wiped off even though USC loses the win. That is why no one is considering giving it to them.

Gotcha.

But Auburn benefits from not having to play USC.

The whole thing is silly, lol.

[autiger730]

The whole thing is silly, lol.

No sillier than the way we determine a NC any other year.

[cdub21]

The whole thing is silly, lol.

No sillier than the way we determine a NC any other year.

except the best team did win it, and now is getting it taken away for something stupid and had nothing to do with the games

[Dolemitesooner]

I think OU would have lost. Ou in the last 8 years has just not been a good bowl game team. I think they read their press clippings a little much.

[autiger730]

The whole thing is silly, lol.

No sillier than the way we determine a NC any other year.

except the best team did win it, and now is getting it taken away for something stupid and had nothing to do with the games

Really? go back and look at all the close games they had against absolute garbage. were they really the best? because they eked by some 5 and 6 loss teams? Oklahoma had to do the same. And to say that using a player who was breaking the rules had nothing to do with the games is just ignorant. If he was a nobody who played a couple plays a game you might could argue that. But reggie bush is the sole reason they were able to win against some of those tomato cans.

[cdub21]

The whole thing is silly, lol.

No sillier than the way we determine a NC any other year.

except the best team did win it, and now is getting it taken away for something stupid and had nothing to do with the games

Really? go back and look at all the close games they had against absolute garbage. were they really the best? because they eked by some 5 and 6 loss teams? Oklahoma had to do the same. And to say that using a player who was breaking the rules had nothing to do with the games is just ignorant. If he was a nobody who played a couple plays a game you might could argue that. But reggie bush is the sole reason they were able to win against some of those tomato cans.

lol it took them 6 years, punish them then or never. they played the games, they won. you cant magically say they didnt. taking away wins is one thing i fucking hate. if they paid off refs, fixed games, thats something that would warrant it. but a kid getting gifts is not a reason to throw away a season and say it never happened. i was on the auburn bandwagon that year and thought they should of played usc but oh well it didnt happen and they shouldnt be crowned champions 6 years later because of some ruling

[Dolemitesooner]

The whole thing is silly, lol.

No sillier than the way we determine a NC any other year.

except the best team did win it, and now is getting it taken away for something stupid and had nothing to do with the games

Really? go back and look at all the close games they had against absolute garbage. were they really the best? because they eked by some 5 and 6 loss teams? Oklahoma had to do the same. And to say that using a player who was breaking the rules had nothing to do with the games is just ignorant. If he was a nobody who played a couple plays a game you might could argue that. But reggie bush is the sole reason they were able to win against some of those tomato cans.

LOL...you sound like Jscence begging for a title.

USC won it who cares. They would have beat Ou with or with out Reggie bush

[autiger730]

I am not begging for anything. Just pointing out that the system is flawed. No one can definitively say that USC or Auburn or Utah, for that matter, was the best team in college football that year. Same goes for several years where there were any number of teams with the same amount of losses at the end of the year. There has to be a playoff, and rankings shouldn't make any difference in who makes it there and who doesn't. That is the only way to have a truly legit title game.

[VeniVediV1ci]

pre-bcs the top 2 didn't play, so give it to the Barners

...god reggie bush is an asshole

[AUChase89]

I'm over what happened in 2004 & I really don't care too much anymore.

I wanted redemption. USC put it on us a few times previously (including the 23-0 win in our own backyard the year before). I don't know whether we would have beat USC or not (they were a pretty stacked team), but I don't see how we couldn't have stood toe to toe. At least I don't think we would have took a 55-19 beat down. People forget how good that Auburn team was... no discredit to USC at all.. they were stacked.

I don't want this championship. I'm not in the business of claiming mythical championships, but I will admit that an unblemished record looks better then some of the other mythical national championships i've seen.

[shel311]

I don't want this championship. I'm not in the business of claiming mythical championships, but I will admit that an unblemished record looks better then some of the other mythical national championships i've seen.

In theory, sure.

But I'll take 2 losses and a BCS Championship over no losses and no championship.