COVID-19

[nick]

im interested in life post this shit.. Last night a girl streamed herself playing the piano and got 50k+ views.

[Crowes]

And trust me JD, this has affected me more than you could imagine. As of right now I am losing just over $3k a month due to this, and who knows how much more as I am not able to expand due to businesses not allowing visitors.

But as my Arabic speaking brothers love to say in Iraq, "Inshallah!" (Translates to God Willing). There is nothing I can do so there is no reason to get butt hurt over it. Life goes on, I have my health and my family. What else do I need?

Go file for unemployment.

I am a sole proprietor LLC with zero employees, so from what I have read I don't qualify.

Generally, if you are the sole proprietor of a business, you are not required to pay unemployment insurance tax on yourself. If you do not contribute to your state's unemployment insurance fund, you are not eligible to receive unemployment benefits in the event your business shuts down.

I thought I read that with the new bill that was passed it was expanded to cover those kind of workers.

[dakshdar]

The Man says "Thing A was a big hoax perpetuated by Group #1."

The Man then says "Thing B is the new hoax perpetuated by Group #1."

People listen and logically conclude "Thing A and Thing B are both hoaxes according to The Man."

This doesn't seem like rocket science.

Note - details regarding the identity of The Man, the Things, and the Groups removed to demonstrate this isn't about "sides".

[GeorgesGoons]

And trust me JD, this has affected me more than you could imagine. As of right now I am losing just over $3k a month due to this, and who knows how much more as I am not able to expand due to businesses not allowing visitors.

But as my Arabic speaking brothers love to say in Iraq, "Inshallah!" (Translates to God Willing). There is nothing I can do so there is no reason to get butt hurt over it. Life goes on, I have my health and my family. What else do I need?

Go file for unemployment.

I am a sole proprietor LLC with zero employees, so from what I have read I don't qualify.

Generally, if you are the sole proprietor of a business, you are not required to pay unemployment insurance tax on yourself. If you do not contribute to your state's unemployment insurance fund, you are not eligible to receive unemployment benefits in the event your business shuts down.

I thought I read that with the new bill that was passed it was expanded to cover those kind of workers.

gonna have to do some research tonight. I at least have one cleaning I am about to go do today, final cleaning for them.

[nick]

Canada's current total is the last 4 digits of my home phone (7448)

[Cnasty]

Note - details regarding the identity of The Man, the Things, and the Groups removed to demonstrate this isn't about "sides".

Nicely done to avoid assumptions that are common.

[DRWebs]

The Man says "Thing A was a big hoax perpetuated by Group #1."

The Man then says "Thing B is the new hoax perpetuated by Group #1."

People listen and logically conclude "Thing A and Thing B are both hoaxes according to The Man."

This doesn't seem like rocket science.

Note - details regarding the identity of The Man, the Things, and the Groups removed to demonstrate this isn't about "sides".

Brilliant

[nick]

You guys know anyone touting the “5g is causing this” ??? Cause my religious buddy is going on that tangent right now. About to be removed from FB

[trendon]

Question is, how are YOU holding up, being right in the thick of it and all

Yeah, that city New Rochelle? Yeah, that's the bordering city! And we bordered the Jewish side that was the first to be locked down. My village became anti-Semetic real quick! All kidding aside, all is well. We are suburban NY so we actually have space and follow rules (except for Scarsdale, they don't seem to care) so we have done a better job than the goddamn city at containing this.

On a selfish level, I'm actually excited about all of this because storefronts are about to become realllllll cheap; bring things down to my level of finance. I am already seeing stores for lease/sale with no key money, which is unheard of around here.

[Weasel]

Good to hear! What do you plan on doing with a storefront?

Unrelated note: Ive been watching Better Call Saul. Im not sure if you ever ended up attending/finishing law school, but I envision you being in the Saul Goodman mold

[Weasel]

Im having very conflicted feelings with regards to COVID.

One on hand, my state is getting crushed. It hasnt quite gotten to my city yet, but it shouldnt be much longer. My office is closed and Im currently without work. I also have a set of skills (intubating, running a vent, critical care management) that can actually help with this thing. While there isnt anything for me currently, I suspect theyll be looking for replacement bodies if it surges.

On the other hand I do not want to risk my familys health or well being. I have a wife and two young kids depending on me. While I dont worry about them getting sick per se due to them being low risk, I do worry about them if something were to happen to me. Reports are showing that prolonged exposure to the virus increases viral load and worsens outcomes, which makes sense. Managing patients airways all day would absolutely make me high risk, particularly with my history of asthma.

There is a strong urge to "enlist" and help my colleagues to do my part. I almost feel guilty sitting on the sidelines at the moment.

[shel311]

eports are showing that prolonged exposure to the virus increases viral load and worsens outcomes, which makes sense.

Dang, didn't realize that.

On the plus side, it's not like hospitals are running out and having to reuse PPE.

[nick]

They’ve been doing research on viral load.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... -19-worse/

For instance, health workers investigating the covid-19 outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy looked at more than 5,000 infected people and found no difference in viral load between those with symptoms and those without. They reached this conclusion after tracing people who had been in contact with someone known to be infected with the coronavirus and testing them to see if they were also infected.
Similarly, when doctors at the Guangzhou Eighth People’s Hospital in China took repeated throat swabs from 94 covid-19 patients, starting on the day they became ill and finishing when they cleared the virus, they found no obvious difference in viral load between milder cases and those who developed more severe symptoms.
Although it is difficult to draw firm conclusions at this stage, such studies “may impact our assumptions about whether a high number of viral particles predisposes to a more serious disease”, says van Schaik.


Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... z6IINnj4Qx

[ReignOnU]

Im having very conflicted feelings with regards to COVID.

One on hand, my state is getting crushed. It hasnt quite gotten to my city yet, but it shouldnt be much longer. My office is closed and Im currently without work. I also have a set of skills (intubating, running a vent, critical care management) that can actually help with this thing. While there isnt anything for me currently, I suspect theyll be looking for replacement bodies if it surges.

On the other hand I do not want to risk my familys health or well being. I have a wife and two young kids depending on me. While I dont worry about them getting sick per se due to them being low risk, I do worry about them if something were to happen to me. Reports are showing that prolonged exposure to the virus increases viral load and worsens outcomes, which makes sense. Managing patients airways all day would absolutely make me high risk, particularly with my history of asthma.

There is a strong urge to "enlist" and help my colleagues to do my part. I almost feel guilty sitting on the sidelines at the moment.

Hopefully it doesn't come to the point that you need to make that decision. I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer in this scenario. If it does happen, whichever you choose, it wasn't the wrong choice in the moment and hope that you'd never look back and think otherwise. I'm sure you're using the time now to have those discussions with your wife and any trusted mentor(s) that you may have.

I haven't mentioned it here, but a lot of this is pretty close to home already. My neighbor is symptomatic assumed. Has been in self-quarantine for nearly 2 weeks. Early 40s, works in healthcare. My wife has exchanged texts and I've spoken to her husband from my driveway to their door... she had started to recover, then popped to 104 2 nights ago. Meanwhile, my brother-in-law is a CareFlight medic and his wife is an ER nurse. He was put on emergency ground transport for COVID response and she's on the wave 1 unit for Miami Valley Hospital, where the first cases in SW Ohio popped up. They had actually been there and known to them for a few days before the announcement. We just kept quiet about it all. They have twins, age 3.

[Seeitsaveit13]

Im having very conflicted feelings with regards to COVID.

One on hand, my state is getting crushed. It hasnt quite gotten to my city yet, but it shouldnt be much longer. My office is closed and Im currently without work. I also have a set of skills (intubating, running a vent, critical care management) that can actually help with this thing. While there isnt anything for me currently, I suspect theyll be looking for replacement bodies if it surges.

On the other hand I do not want to risk my familys health or well being. I have a wife and two young kids depending on me. While I dont worry about them getting sick per se due to them being low risk, I do worry about them if something were to happen to me. Reports are showing that prolonged exposure to the virus increases viral load and worsens outcomes, which makes sense. Managing patients airways all day would absolutely make me high risk, particularly with my history of asthma.

There is a strong urge to "enlist" and help my colleagues to do my part. I almost feel guilty sitting on the sidelines at the moment.

I think the asthma aspect of that makes it somewhat easier for you. That should disqualify you from helping, despite your desire to. That puts you at much higher risk.

Not sure if that helps you at all, but I can't imagine doing it in your scenario despite wanting to help (and rightfully so)

[ReignOnU]

Nothing groundbreaking here, but Reddit had an AMA with an infectious disease specialist today:
https://www.reddit.com/user/MTOsterholm/comments/

[Cnasty]

Read it earlier and 2 things he said I found interesting:

What are the chances of someone who unknowingly caught the COVID19 virus and recovered from it (without much sickness) and then got reinfected again but this time needing intensive medical care?

The initial data that we have is from animal studies where monkeys were intentionally infected with the virus, allowed to recover, and challenged several weeks later with the virus again. None of them got reinfected, indicating that they had developed protective immunity.

I think that you can make an estimate of deaths in the US will be in the 1.4-2.8 million range. This includes deaths throughout the next 15 or more months. These numbers are my best guestimate at this time, and are subject to change with new data.

[Cnasty]

<3

I hope I get a cool Tesla one and not a lame GM one

[trendon]

Good to hear! What do you plan on doing with a storefront?

Unrelated note: Ive been watching Better Call Saul. Im not sure if you ever ended up attending/finishing law school, but I envision you being in the Saul Goodman mold

No, but I am now a junior! When we last spoke I had nine credits. I now have 60 or so (forget exact amount). I did it through Empire State which is a test-only curriculum that also granted me 12 credits due to my IT experience so I knocked out all of the IS courses in the program. I got away from it in 2017 because it was costly and I was looking to buy a restaurant but going to get back in to it soon. Then we'll see. Odds of me ever getting in to law are very slim but they are still there.

As for a store? I had an idea for a restaurant in my brain for a year now that in a weird way would have been perfect for this situation we're in now. Almost a year to the day, I quit my job to attempt to buy a location. I failed because I got outbid. It was actually a blessing because the guy is not doing well throughout this. It'll be a bit less ideal when we come out of it but I am very excited about how this covid stuff has brutalized the restaurant industry, bringing the cost of entry down to my level, especially considering my concept didn't require much in the way of dine-in traffic. In a really fucked-up way of looking at it, this pandemic is likely very beneficial to me so long I don't die.

[ReignOnU]

Read it earlier and 2 things he said I found interesting:

What are the chances of someone who unknowingly caught the COVID19 virus and recovered from it (without much sickness) and then got reinfected again but this time needing intensive medical care?

The initial data that we have is from animal studies where monkeys were intentionally infected with the virus, allowed to recover, and challenged several weeks later with the virus again. None of them got reinfected, indicating that they had developed protective immunity.

I think that you can make an estimate of deaths in the US will be in the 1.4-2.8 million range. This includes deaths throughout the next 15 or more months. These numbers are my best guestimate at this time, and are subject to change with new data.

I'd love to see details of these models. I mentioned it before, but I can't stand how frequently Dr. Birx comments about the data from China. I have no faith in any of it. I believe in another part he mentioned SE Asia and Europe for his background, but even then it seems odd. We know for a fact that the testing is incredibly limited in these areas. I spend a great deal of time on forecasting financial and operational outcomes and one of the most important lessons that you learn is that your work is only as good as your least accurate piece of data. China, lack of testing, etc don't garner much respect. I'd rather see hypothetical models of current infection, projected out.

Side note, this is why the antibody tests are so important. Imagine if we could grab a small state (Vermont, Delaware) relatively close to NY or a good sized city (Boston, Baltimore) and offer free, on-demand testing through any form of POC. Family doc, lab, drive-up... whatever. Then we'll finally have something strong and trustworthy to work with.

If some of the suspicions are true and we have well over 1m infected, hundreds of thousands without symptoms and there is minimal, if any reinfection, then we should be working on a strategy to maximize the situation. More ifs... but if we find that a huge amount of people under 50 have it or have had it and the outcomes closely align with the flu, we can figure out the risk of loosening restrictions of the younger population, while continuing to highly restrict (and protect) the older population. The flip side is that none of the suspicions are true, we amp up the communication of the potential for +1m fatalities, and get ready for more strict measures overall. Either way, much easier to move forward with this information.